Telefunken North America Are Making 1073's...

[BobbyPeru]

http://telefunkenusa.com/products/sh...&cat=equipment


Kinda weird....When I looked on their products list and saw VLZ 73, I assumed it would be a compressor, like the u73.

Nope.

They sure look shiny......


Bobby Peru
Milwaukee, WI

[Geoff_T]

Blimey... what happened to the knobs? Looks like a cat reeched on the centre ones!

Interesting how they think the 1960's metal can transistors are better than the later epoxy cased ones. Neve obviously didn't think the same....

Now I expect Neve to start producing copies of Telefunken mic pres!

[electronboy]

It sounded to good to be true, the new Telefunken USA has nothing to do with the historic Telefunken company. When Daimler Benz bought the bankrupt AEG-Telefunken AG in the mid 80s, they sold of the ELA devision, for a while it was renamed ANT, than sold to the Bosch group, and finally complete liquidation in 1991, with it the legendary history.

Even the right of all their equipment expired long time ago, the name is hold in a trust and to the information of this trust, the USA company is iligal and violates the trademark rights of Daimler Benz.

Also Telefunken never made any mic, everything was made by other companies like AKG, Neumann, Sennheiser and Schops, so how can they recreate the originals...

W. Tell

[Geoff_T]

Originally posted by electronboy
It sounded to good to be true, the new Telefunken USA has nothing to do with the historic Telefunken company. When Daimler Benz bought the bankrupt AEG-Telefunken AG in the mid 80s, they sold of the ELA devision, for a while it was renamed ANT, than sold to the Bosch group, and finally complete liquidation in 1991, with it the legendary history.

Even the right of all their equipment expired long time ago, the name is hold in a trust and to the information of this trust, the USA company is iligal and violates the trademark rights of Daimler Benz.

Also Telefunken never made any mic, everything was made by other companies like AKG, Neumann, Sennheiser and Schops, so how can they recreate the originals...

W. Tell

Hi

Thanks for the very useful background. I'm not sure why they are calling it 73 other than to ride on the reputation of Neve's legendary 1073's which, of course, AMS-Neve are manufacturing using the original transformers and important parts. I can't really tell what transformers this unit uses from the CAD'd drawing but they aren't Marinair or Carnhill.

I'm a little confused by the controls because, where I might expect a high pass filter selector switch is one marked mic/line. But up at the top the gain switch is divided into mic and line sections.

Obvious differences are the 6dB steps instead of 5dB and the reduced headroom, especially when driving 600 ohms.

A real 1073 would have no difficulty exceeding +26dBu into 600 ohms.

Methinks it's all in the iron and I know for a fact that the AMS-Neve 1073 and 1084 have a transformer that meets the original Neve specs. Not so the product supplied to the cloners...

[Wiggy Neve Slut]

As much as i love Neve, i think all the 'clones' (perhaps George lucas got the idea for the starwars movie from these forums?) a bit of a serious cashin!... Why dont they put their efforts into building and expanding on what Neve created?

ooh and now who is telling the truth here.. is Tele simply continuing on in the Tele tradition of rebadging shit?
http://www.mistyhillaudio.com/wunder/index.html these have been around for at least 8 months or so and are a fair bit cheaper like @ least $500 a pop from memory.



Cheers
Wiggy

[Wiggy Neve Slut]

Do these bear a startling similarity..... No they just have diffferent badges on them! fuuck

PEACE
Wiggy

[Geoff_T]

Originally posted by Wiggy Neve Slut
Do these bear a startling similarity..... No they just have diffferent badges on them! fuuck

PEACE
Wiggy

Hi

Well spotted, and they have the same centre knobs that look like a cat threw up on them...

[Lindell]

Why do cats smell.......

[Geoff_T]

Originally posted by Lindell
Why do cats smell.......

Same reason as dogs....

[faeflora]

Very funny guys!

[Fletcher]

Originally posted by Wiggy Neve Slut
Why dont they put their efforts into building and expanding on what Neve created?

You mean like the Great River 'Mercenary Edition' stuff?

[Teacher]

Originally posted by Fletcher
You mean like the Great River 'Mercenary Edition' stuff?

i always thought they were an out right copy! j/k

[jbuntz]

I think they were talking about Vintech etc... so called "exact" copies.

[Brent Casey]

Check out the reflections in the metalwork.

[faeflora]

Huh? What do you see? Crotch?

[tommyd]

Good catch Brent! If you look at the reflection in the top surface of the photo, you see the scroll cut wood work in both pics.
Tommy

[BobbyPeru]

Wow, that really sucks about the picture being the same. Maybe they're like the real Telefunken was and don't make any of their own stuff

I was a bit surprised when I saw what it was in the first place. All the Mic's started looking good until I started seeing C-12 copies and the Neve wannabe in there.

If you're going to remake Telefunken, remake Telefunken. Not Telefunken and every other remotely similar(in that they're mic's and mic pre's) piece of Vintage gear as well.

This makes me think 2wice even about buying one of their 251's...

Speaking of the Reissue 251's price....er....standard.....

I could buy a Soundelux Elux 251, an E-47 and a pair of Brent Averil's 1084 Repro's for about the same "Standard".

Maybe I'm shortsighted or missing something.


Bobby Peru
Milwaukee, WI