Should I sell two TAB V76 to get four API / NEVE pres?

[carloff]

I will take them can give you api 2134

[tobi-mobile]

Originally Posted by carloff

I will take them can give you api 2134

two 3124 and we MIGHT have a deal ;-)

Anyone else opinions on these pres? I mean V76 are sold for about 3000 $. To those of you who have compared: Is this vintage hype price or are they really better than 1073 for example?

[Marcocet]

Originally Posted by tobi-mobile

two 3124 and we MIGHT have a deal ;-)

Anyone else opinions on these pres? I mean V76 are sold for about 3000 $. To those of you who have compared: Is this vintage hype price or are they really better than 1073 for example?

Since most vintage 1073's seem to sell for about $3500 or more on the used market nowadays your comparison doesn't really make sense, but you're right in pointing out that the cash-value has nothing to do with the use-value. It's all about what it's worth to you.

I wouldn't give up the V76's without trying out other options first and being sure of what you want. They may not be so easy to get back. There are plenty of rental companies that will get you vintage stuff, and you can contact any major dealer and put down a credit card in order to demo modern AMS Neve and API. This is NOT throwing money away if you end up with gear you love.

[tobi-mobile]

You are right, vintage 1073 are about the same price. I was thinking about the new stuff. I could easily get about 4 clones, maybe 500 series.

[nickelironsteel]

doesnt make sense i payd 500 for my v76 and even less for v72s v74s and so on... totally hysterical overpriced these days

[rob S]

I wouldnt do it

[RoundBadge]

if they're actually good 76's I wouldn't sell them.
sold mine a couple years ago and regret it.
[I have vintage Neve/API modules here].
what they bring to the palette is different/cool enough from the solid state stuff it definitely warrants having them.

[Showcase]

Originally Posted by RoundBadge

if they're actually good 76's I wouldn't sell them.
sold mine a couple years ago and regret it.
[I have vintage Neve/API modules here].
what they bring to the palette is different/cool enough from the solid state stuff it definitely warrants having them.

I agree.

But if I had to choose, I think I would sell my 1073 actually

[cheu78]

Originally Posted by RoundBadge

if they're actually good 76's I wouldn't sell them.

+1! If anything try the Avedis MA5 (500 series), and see if you like it, but if you're happy with them don't sell them..

Just my 0.02$,



Cheu

[RoundBadge]

Originally Posted by cheu78

+1! If anything try the Avedis MA5 (500 series), and see if you like it, but if you're happy with them don't sell them..

Just my 0.02$,



Cheu

then find a couple capi api pres .like $3-400 each.

[tobi-mobile]

I am supprised, most of you wouldn't sell them to get more of the modern stuff, people are stating as reference. Here's what has been my concrete thoughts:

Selling a stereo pair of very good V76 could give me:
API 3124
AND
Vintech 473

I know it is lame to ask and discuss, but:
Would you say V76 is another level of micpre quality to those mentioned?

Thanks for your input.

[cheu78]

Honestly it all depends from your goals (and ears/taste) at this level..
But to answer your question, my personal opinion is..yes the 76 has the edge over the two mentioned above..
(as other preamps that I like for different things, like the MA5 or the Forssell for exemple, very different preamps that, always IMHO, I will choose every day of the week over the ones mentioned above..)

They aren't bad, actually the api on drums is very nice (and also on some other stuff of course), but if I have to choose...

Just my 0.02$,



Cheu

[superwack]

I wouldn't sell them but (based on the fact that 1 V76 in a lunchbox just sold in the classifieds for $4,500) I would get an Aurora Audio GTP8 (8 channel of awesomeness) and maybe a 3124. I'd actually say a 500 series rack with the ClassicAPIs but since you are trying to go smaller and the 2RU of the GTP + 3RU of the 500 series rack you wouldn't be too far off from the size of your V76's I'd steer away from that.

[Daniel Comport]

Age old answer.......... If you have to ask

good ones are hard to find - let them go, and it's likely you wont see a pair again without paying a HEFTY premium.....IF you happen to find some- VERY big if

[hasbeen]

Originally Posted by tobi-mobile

Would you say V76 is another level of micpre quality to those mentioned?

Yes.

Are you crazy? Keep them unless you absolutely need the money.

[RoundBadge]

Originally Posted by tobi-mobile

Selling a stereo pair of very good V76 could give me:
API 3124
AND
Vintech 473

I know it is lame to ask and discuss, but:
Would you say V76 is another level of micpre quality to those mentioned?

Thanks for your input.

lol don't do it.
keep them and start saving.
if you need some API stuff get the Classic audio of Illinois stuff..like 300 a pop.
I had like serial #2 473 years ago and it sounded downright anemic compared to my 1084's.

[RFZ DUDE]

Originally Posted by tobi-mobile

two 3124 and we MIGHT have a deal ;-)

Anyone else opinions on these pres? I mean V76 are sold for about 3000 $. To those of you who have compared: Is this vintage hype price or are they really better than 1073 for example?

for 3000.- i would never ever, no no no buy a V76...maybe three of them but only if i really wanted.

prices are crazy these days, V76s, V72s are NOT worth that kind of money - neither is a 1073 worth that kind of money...

the market is so crazy.

[obsolete]

sillier and sillier ever day, what do you want? the v76 is hifi all day. the 1084 1073 etc is cool as all get out, kick, snare, the right (modernesque) vocal etc, if you can, listen , man, drop the dough and learn

[obsolete]

honestly though for modern pop i use a 73 for the eq, and for acoustic and "real" sounds the 76, hope it helps

[salomonander]

if i'd be you i would keep them. my 1073s gather dust while i use my v72s every day. neves are kinda nice for some things, but personally i think they sound - well, just weired compared to the tube tab stuff...
maybe if you rent a 1073 and prefer its sound. maybe if you do AC/DC type music. but if you are recording acoustic music do not do this!

[syra]

You mentioned you're mobile so that's a factor. V76s are indeed heavy and bulky. Another factor is that in order to truly appreciate the fine differences between pres, a controlled recording environment would be ideal which in your case doesn't seem to exist due to the nature of mobile recording. V76s are amazing but depending on the situation not necessarily more than an API or a NEVE. If you need more quality pres and don't want to spend extra money I'd say sell them.

[nickelironsteel]

also dont forget to get a V76 ready for studio work you have to invest another grand for a total refurbishment

[hop.sing]

Originally Posted by nickelironsteel

also dont forget to get a V76 ready for studio work you have to invest another grand for a total refurbishment

How is that?
If the transformers are intakt you might have to change some elcos and tubes, maybe(!), but otherwise there is not much to do. A grand seems a lot of money even for the most skilled of technicians, especially since those components are easily accessible in the v76 and readily available.

[natpub]

Dont do it. Lots of gear is the kind you buy and sell and trade. But SOME gear is the kind you keep. The V76 you keep.

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[RFZ DUDE]

Originally Posted by nickelironsteel

also dont forget to get a V76 ready for studio work you have to invest another grand for a total refurbishment

ill build you one for a grand.or two.

[tobi-mobile]

Originally Posted by syra

You mentioned you're mobile so that's a factor. V76s are indeed heavy and bulky. Another factor is that in order to truly appreciate the fine differences between pres, a controlled recording environment would be ideal which in your case doesn't seem to exist due to the nature of mobile recording. V76s are amazing but depending on the situation not necessarily more than an API or a NEVE. If you need more quality pres and don't want to spend extra money I'd say sell them.

That is one important point for me. The recordings I do are on different locations - no real studio surroundings for most of the time. It can be really interesting and a creative approach to check out new and maybe uncommon places as you know. I mainly record Indie and Alternative Bands, some singer songwirter stuff. Of course I want my recordings to sound professional and I think they do. But with recordings on location: Will I hear the difference between V76 pre amplification and let's say Vintech 473 in my changing surroundings?

Thanks for all the input so far.

[Showcase]

I think V76 is actually one of those pre that you can actually hear a change to the better, selling these and buy api would be à downgrade for sure

[audioconsult]

Originally Posted by tobi-mobile

two 3124 and we MIGHT have a deal ;-)

Anyone else opinions on these pres? I mean V76 are sold for about 3000 $. To those of you who have compared: Is this vintage hype price or are they really better than 1073 for example?

better is hard to say when comparing apples and oranges. And that dont includes the eq in the 1073.. what makes it really interesting for a mobile rig.

The v76 valve sound is more golden.

[druhms]

Even though your v-76's are affected by the vintage hype stigma, they are excellent pre's and they will only go up in price. You just can't ignore the fact that this stuff costs money. I didn't catch exactly what instruments you are using them on, but the location recording guys I know are more interested in getting a good clean signal to tape than what a particular mic amp may bring to the mojo table. The options you are considering to replace your v-76's are easier to come by, or at least some really good copy cats are. No good v-76 imitators are floating around, that I know of. So, if I were you, I'd thank my lucky stars to have a pair of v-76's and just save my pennies for some mic amps that are less money, but equally proficient at getting your remote jobs done. Neve 10 series and vintage API's are tremendous in their own ways, as are your preamps, but there are numerous awesome choices out right now for much less money. Think of your v-76's as scrap gold and just hang on to them until you really need the $$...plus they sound great.

JJ