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Old 20th August 2012   #1
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Best software (Mac) to playback 176/24 FLAC hi res audio files?

I have a Grace M903 a/d converter capable of 176/24 playback

There are a few high res playback softwares to chose from I think -

Any recommendations?

The files are on my hard drive and they will playback via USB into my (1 year old) MacBook Air - then go out via the other USB port to the Grace M903

Thanks in advance..

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How about this one?

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Thanks

I went for Decibel from sbooth.org

See how I get on with it..
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You're quick..

There's also: Amarra from Sonic Studio Professional Mastering Systems and Amarra High Resolution Music Players that integrates with itunes.
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Amarra sounds good, but 189 bucks for a player...c'mon man!
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Ya. I'm using Fidelia with a Grace m903 here.

The sound of higher res files with this listening chain is great - though I'm mostly not playing files above 96k.

Functionally (interface options, playlist management etc) of Fidelia is somewhat basic, I guess, but the audio quality and support for high res formats is there, which is what I bought it for.
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I don't have any experience with this, but some coworkers were recently raving about Pure Music
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to be honest... don't play FLAC

convert to WAV, Play WAV or AIFF
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to be honest... don't play FLAC

convert to WAV, Play WAV or AIFF
why?
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why?
+1 FLAC is lossless no?
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FLACs are currently the best hope for hi resolution audio distribution via the internet. We like the Decibel player as well, as it seems to do the best of looking and feeling like you're just using itunes. It does what you need to do without a lot of bells and whistles.
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Well FLAC is sort of lossless from an audio standpoint in that it uses "Linear Prediction", a mathematical operation where future values of a discrete-time signal are estimated as a linear function of previous samples. In short it makes lots of guesses (not all of them are correct). You should just do some quick listening tests between Waves and FLACs of the same songs to see if the difference is acceptable to you. The big reasons for using FLACs is for using a lot less bandwidth when transfering over the net and for saving disk space. I personally prefer Wave files and given that two or three terabyte storage hard drives now cost so little the extra disk space the Wave file takes up is not such a big deal now.
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If its only 'sort of lossless' how come I get bit perfect transfers to and from? Something is either lossless or it's not.
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Frost, well here is the "sort of" . . . FLAC uses linear prediction to convert the audio samples to a series of small, uncorrelated numbers (known as the residual), which are stored efficiently using Golomb-Rice coding. This is how it reduces the file size over 50%.

First of all nothing makes 100% perfect predictions ever, if something did I'd be using it for buying stock and playing the lottery LOL. Tangent comment: there are large computer servers now going in service located very close physically to the stock exchange's computers so that they can do millions of buy/sell actions per day using the advantages of linear preditions and low latency (low ping time) to make money. Given that and the extremely high cost to lease them I would assume that linear prediction has a pretty good track record statisically.

Secondly there is a bit element which you refer to and a time element which some use the word "jitter" when talking about this discussion. Here are a couple of web debates touching on the issue that may be of interest:

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FLAC versus WAV

Even with a null test, one would have to ask how wide the time element is set in that test and how sensitive to this time element (jitter) the listener is given a good monitering chain that would reveal differences in the first place. Just like when doing blind testing of clocking options for our setups, using a stereo file with lots of 3D info in it would be the better test reference song given if the timing element is off it tends to move 3D sources to the up front center position (smearing the timing cues our ears need to locate a source's exact position in the sphere around our bodies). The simple answer is get your hands dirty with your gear and see if you hear a difference and if so does the difference matter.
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Ive used foobar to check and got bit perfect transfers to and from. Jitter? Jitter never matters in an asynchronous transfer. I WILL however remain open to the idea that we dont know everything and there might be some difference as there are 1. enough people who claim to hear a difference between flac, apple lossless, and wav files and 2. I hear a difference when using different clocks and thats not supposed to make a difference per people whose opinions I really respect. I guess the jury shall stay open, but I shall continue to think flac sounds great until I hear otherwise.
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