Converter advice

[nnajar]

I would get a sound devices USBpre2 and call it day...

[piperopigeon]

the b2 bomber changed my life.

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by nnajar

I would get a sound devices USBpre2 and call it day...

If he is actually using pt le he'll need a converter with spdif out, to go into his le interface.

[natpub]

Lynx Hilo, or +1 on the Sound Devices.

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[southernjumber]

Thanks! I'll soon upgrade to protools 10 but for now I still need an spdif port.

Was thinking about the Burl but wouldn't it be close to the 2192 as (if I ain't wrong) both have the same designer?

One of my friends is selling an Apogee Rosetta 200. What about this one?

[nnajar]

Originally Posted by psycho_monkey

If he is actually using pt le he'll need a converter with spdif out, to go into his le interface.

It has spdif out....

[VT-MHE]

Forssell mada or just the adc side (madc)

[szmola]

Metric Halo ULN-2.
just got it and it's really that awesome like everybody is talking here.

[Trev@Circle]

What budget do you have?

[VT-MHE]

Originally Posted by Trev@Circle

What budget do you have?

thats actually a very important question

[FadersmakmeHappy]

Originally Posted by southernjumber

Thanks! I'll soon upgrade to protools 10 but for now I still need an spdif port.

Was thinking about the Burl but wouldn't it be close to the 2192 as (if I ain't wrong) both have the same designer?

One of my friends is selling an Apogee Rosetta 200. What about this one?

Why don't you try it out? I am a big fan of the Apogee converters (I use a Rosetta 800), but having tried the 2192 next to it, I am not sure it's what you are looking for. Nothing better than getting it in your room with your ears!!

[unfiltered420]

Originally Posted by piperopigeon

the b2 bomber changed my life.

Converters changed your life? Sorry brother, that sounds pathetic. Mics, pres, eq, comp, maybe but converters? Most boring piece of gear ever. Never even in my lowliest levels of gearlust have I lusted for better converters. Then again I think gold and diamonds are ugly, so what do I know.

[VT-MHE]

Originally Posted by unfiltered420

Converters changed your life? Sorry brother, that sounds pathetic. Mics, pres, eq, comp, maybe but converters? Most boring piece of gear ever. Never even in my lowliest levels of gearlust have I lusted for better converters. Then again I think gold and diamonds are ugly, so what do I know.

go easy sir. having a set of converters can be a nice eye opener for some especially depending on that they are coming from using and what the new converter does for the sound they are trying to achieve. adding certain pieces of gear can add creativity and i guess in a figure of speech for some be life altering lol. one mans life altering is another mans blah lol. but there are some new designs that are great, great sounding and great ideas in terms of gear and i think the burl is one of those pieces, i believe its enough to make someone excited. maybe not you.

[cinealta]

Metric Halo ULN-2.

[mirrorboy]

Originally Posted by unfiltered420

Converters changed your life? Sorry brother, that sounds pathetic. Mics, pres, eq, comp, maybe but converters? Most boring piece of gear ever. Never even in my lowliest levels of gearlust have I lusted for better converters. Then again I think gold and diamonds are ugly, so what do I know.

Haha!!

Sorry but I TOTALLY thought your response was gonna be more like, "What?!?!? CONVERTERS, of all things, CHANGED YOUR LIFE !!!

Then you used the word 'pathetic' at which point I was certain the post would continue with something like,

"What about all the amazing life experiences, family, tragedy, sickness, love & loss, etc, etc"

But you responded with, "What?!?!? CONVERTERS changed your life!!! Dude- it should me be mics, pres, eqs, comps, etc" (something like that)

Anyways, that just totally caught me off guard and I thought it was hilarious.

True GS in fine form.


peace~

Scott

[southernjumber]

Hi all and thanks for the feedback! Budget is a good question indeed. I'd say around 3 K new at the max... I've just had the opportunity to buy a Rosetta 200 from a friend. So for now I'll give it a try and its chance. Heard the Crane Song Hedd on my material yesterday (DA conversion, normal mode) and it sounded full and huge. Will give you my impressions about the Apogee... Let's talk about the important stuff now ;-): love, life, fate, hope, loss, crows and crosses... and all the songs they inspire :-)!... Cheers! Mark

[chrisrulesmore]

For that price, I would maybe stretch a bit and look for a used Prism Orpheus or even try the Apogee Duet 2. I have done a ton of Americana with both units, and they are both amazing. On a ULN8 now, but that would be overkill for your needs.

Best,
Chris

[unfiltered420]

Originally Posted by VT-MHE

go easy sir. having a set of converters can be a nice eye opener for some especially depending on that they are coming from using and what the new converter does for the sound they are trying to achieve. adding certain pieces of gear can add creativity and i guess in a figure of speech for some be life altering lol. one mans life altering is another mans blah lol. but there are some new designs that are great, great sounding and great ideas in terms of gear and i think the burl is one of those pieces, i believe its enough to make someone excited. maybe not you.

I get plenty excited by gear, just gear that does something magical, or at the very least contribute something substantial to the waveform, and the artform. Converters, even high end ones, do nothing for me. Give me a tape machine, a fixed filter bank, a Massive Passive, a space echo, a minimoog, I will do amazing artistic things with sound. The converters on my cell phone sound close enough to the best converters i have ever heard, why even bother wasting the money?

[VT-MHE]

Originally Posted by unfiltered420

I get plenty excited by gear, just gear that does something magical, or at the very least contribute something substantial to the waveform, and the artform. Converters, even high end ones, do nothing for me. Give me a tape machine, a fixed filter bank, a Massive Passive, a space echo, a minimoog, I will do amazing artistic things with sound. The converters on my cell phone sound close enough to the best converters i have ever heard, why even bother wasting the money?

I mean thats cool, im just saying why crap on someone elses life changing\altering experience? We all feel differently about different gear. Just allow everyone to get a hard on about what does it for them.

[Melgueil]

Many good choices in that range. Once you reach the beginning of high end you are just splitting hairs. Workflow, features - whatever meshes best with the rest of your chain. Is a Prism, Metric Halo, Lynx, Apogee - swapped out assuming all other things stay the same, going to change much ? I think not.

Cdlt

[cheu78]

Originally Posted by southernjumber

Hi all and thanks for the feedback! Budget is a good question indeed. I'd say around 3 K new at the max...

I'm late to the party..as usual

With that budget in mind I'd seriously check out the Forssell..probably your best bet..
Or, if you could find one used (maybe around your budget or a bit more), try a Weiss, which is also stellar..

I usually don't sweat about converters, but those are 2 of the best converters around IMO.
There's also Bricasti that does a converter now, but it's way out of your budget..(apparently is also very very nice).
Crane Song is another company that I'd "trust", I never used their converters though..

Just my 0.02$,



Cheu

[fccmt]

(I own both) Hilo is a very versatile machine with a great concept (routing mixer, usb, in/outs possibilities). A good sound image, the whole frequency spectrum is very balanced.
The UA 2192 is more on the classic/aesthetic and unique side. A refined machine that works very well on the analog loop (besides other normal tasks). very real, very warm,different...much more my cup of tea...perfect, perfect

[jaffa]

I'm sure the Lavry AD10 or 11 (has mic pres on this model) would be perfect for what you need. The 11 has the benefit of being able to use USB and AES/EBU or spdif outs at the same time. Conversion is clear and deep and absolutely true to the source. I have Lynx, Apogee and ISA 428 internal converters here too for comparison.

Steve

[kooz]

this is what I did when I was in your position:
buy a mytek Stereo96 AD, then normal your pres to it.

[Pale Pyramid]

Originally Posted by GaryWeinrib

this diy stuff is cool, however you can buy apogee converters like a rosetta 200 for $800 used now. When you look at the features of an apogee compared to these homemade ones, there is no comparison and the apogee sound the same , worst case.

So it would cost you about $600 for these ross martin ones, for only $200 more you have a nicer looking unit, more features and better resale value. I don't understand why people buy diy stuff?? I think it's bizarre.



No offense to this rossmartin brand, but electronics equipment should not have wooden parts, that is amateur. plywood. That is not proaudio

It was my understanding that Ross Martin units came fully assembled . Not really DIY as you suggest if this is the case . You could then argue Lavry and Mytek look cheap . They have a home assembled look to them . It's all about the sound isn't it ? I imagine this is where Ross saves a few dollars and passes the savings on to his customers . If you don't like the design he's chosen then that comes down to your personal aesthetic . I personally have several vintage synthesizers with wood ends and they look just fine to me . DBX 160 is a cool looking compressor .

We are not his only customer base .

Ross Martin is also purchased by audiofiles as well as those of us recording/mixing music . For these folks, how do the look of his wood panels differ from an old and classic Marantz , Eico, Technics or Panasonic HIFI receiver to that crowd ?

[VT-MHE]

Originally Posted by GaryWeinrib

I guess I'm mistaken

Yeah you really were

[VT-MHE]

Originally Posted by GaryWeinrib

Well since rossmartin came out with his line of converters, isn't it ironic Apogee stopped making converters around the same time? game over?

I guess larvy and prism should throw in the towel too? I mean I find it insulting that they charge $5000 for 2 channels and rossmartin charges $300?? lot's of suckers out there.

I guess wood is the answer?

I have no idea what your talking about, and I'm beginning to think you don't know either. Apogee still makes converters. Who cares what Lavry and prism does. If you wanna spend 5 grand on a pair of converters and you think its worth it more power to you and by all means do it if you have th money to. But at the end of the day none of that matters only thing that will matter is if you're music sounds good! No one will care (except you ) if you used a 5000$ or 5 dollar converter. And the Ross Martin sounds as good and better than most of these high priced converters. So it should mentioned so people can get professional conversion and results without dropping 5000$.......... like you.

[jdeans]

I'd look into the Lynx Hilo, and not just because I'm selling mine in the classifieds... really is an amazing converter that I hate to have to part with. Check out the Ultimate analog loopback thread and others... a serious 2 In 6 Out box with some killer specs and incredible sound.

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by GaryWeinrib

I think apogee only makes interfaces now, not standalone "converters".

Without wanting to sound like I'm correcting you again, you're...partially correct.

The high end Symphony system, which replaces the AD/DA-16X, is both an interface AND a standalone converter. And also a PT HD interface.

It's a long way removed from an "all in one" interface like the Duet" - you don't have to have mic preamps and so on installed at all, it can be used purely as an AES interface.

Think of it more as a converter with an interface option, (like the lynx Aurora), more than an interface that does standalone as well.

I think any correlation between apogee making "interfaces" and RMA is purely coincidental. People looking at the Symphony are unlikely to be looking at RMA - not because they might or might not be good, but because they're not a 16 channel expandable PT HD or Apogee Symphony compatible device.

Someone looking at a Duet, might consider the RMA unit, if they're aware of them.