18th August 2012
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#91 | | Lives for gear
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Can we all tone it down a bit or get a moderator in here to clean this up, please?
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18th August 2012
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#92 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jan 2011
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Originally Posted by Emwolb Or naming the thread properly...
The thing to refuse to admit is you were excited to have a REAL 1073- ie the thread. Period. Then you seem annoyed when people point out you don't.
You KNEW its a 1073 MP, not a 1073. You CHOSE to call it a 1073.
When you post something in high end, about one of the most FAMOUS circuits of all time, and its wrong- what do you expect?
Anal = high end.
Its weird how you can't realize you celebrated THINKING you had a 1073. You got suckered. You weren't looking for a great BAE pre- you WANTED a 1073...
Yet at this point you are just panty twisted and it is what it is. But to pretend this thread was about your new preamp is malarky- it was your celebration in getting SPECIFICALLY a 1073.
Anal to call a horse a horse? Then viva anal! If you don't think theres something wrong with the abuse of the the term 1073, especially considering the 1084 is FAR better but most people are clueless, then thats all you.
Ignorance is bliss and on GS its par for the course- ie why there are pimps at every turn.
The preamp is the same in the 1064, 1066, 1073, 1084, 1099, 31102, 31104 AND MORE...
Im sorry but I find it frustrating that people have no idea and toss 1073 around like its magic... High end is EXACTLY the place to discuss that. | Ok dud we get it. I am sorry the tittle of this thread ruined your life. Maybe you can start a new one with the correct name if that makes you feel any better |
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18th August 2012
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#93 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Nov 2005 Location: S.Carolina
Posts: 12,269
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Originally Posted by Emwolb Or naming the thread properly... The thing to refuse to admit is you were excited to have a REAL 1073- ie the thread. Period. | Now that is the LAST thing that is true, I bought the preamp one week ago, I am not sure that it has been on 10 mins must less used that much, I have been remodeling all week and have not been doing any studio work...PERIOD.
I knew it was a BAE when I bought it, I also knew it wasn't a Neve, can we dropped this once and for all, there is no need to take a da*n preamp over the edge with such sh*t.
I agree a mod needs to take control here, maybe close the da*n thread.
Some of you guys have serious OCD about gear, I know this is gearslutz but SHESH.........take it over the edge how about it.
That is it I am not posting on this thread anymore, it's people like you that turns everything sour even when we both know the BAE is a clone, I was not excited about getting the unit, reason why ?, I have owned a couple BAE 312 years ago and did not like them, you can do a search on me and find that is true. If anything I was weary about buying the 1073MP.
Close it down mods..........
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18th August 2012
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#94 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2003 Location: BOSTON
Posts: 1,978
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Originally Posted by Emwolb Or naming the thread properly...
The thing to refuse to admit is you were excited to have a REAL 1073- ie the thread. Period. Then you seem annoyed when people point out you don't.
You KNEW its a 1073 MP, not a 1073. You CHOSE to call it a 1073.
When you post something in high end, about one of the most FAMOUS circuits of all time, and its wrong- what do you expect?
Anal = high end.
Its weird how you can't realize you celebrated THINKING you had a 1073. You got suckered. You weren't looking for a great BAE pre- you WANTED a 1073...
Yet at this point you are just panty twisted and it is what it is. But to pretend this thread was about your new preamp is malarky- it was your celebration in getting SPECIFICALLY a 1073.
Anal to call a horse a horse? Then viva anal! If you don't think theres something wrong with the abuse of the the term 1073, especially considering the 1084 is FAR better but most people are clueless, then thats all you.
Ignorance is bliss and on GS its par for the course- ie why there are pimps at every turn.
The preamp is the same in the 1064, 1066, 1073, 1084, 1099, 31102, 31104 AND MORE...
Im sorry but I find it frustrating that people have no idea and toss 1073 around like its magic... High end is EXACTLY the place to discuss that. | What is your problem? Okay you won, is that what you need to hear? What it is that you want to win who knows! Ya, we get your point, you are much smarter than anyone in the world. Feel better about yourself yet? GREAT!! Give it a break.
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18th August 2012
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#95 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 504
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Originally Posted by Emwolb Or naming the thread properly...
The thing to refuse to admit is you were excited to have a REAL 1073- ie the thread. Period. Then you seem annoyed when people point out you don't.
You KNEW its a 1073 MP, not a 1073. You CHOSE to call it a 1073.
When you post something in high end, about one of the most FAMOUS circuits of all time, and its wrong- what do you expect?
Anal = high end.
Its weird how you can't realize you celebrated THINKING you had a 1073. You got suckered. You weren't looking for a great BAE pre- you WANTED a 1073...
Yet at this point you are just panty twisted and it is what it is. But to pretend this thread was about your new preamp is malarky- it was your celebration in getting SPECIFICALLY a 1073.
Anal to call a horse a horse? Then viva anal! If you don't think theres something wrong with the abuse of the the term 1073, especially considering the 1084 is FAR better but most people are clueless, then thats all you.
Ignorance is bliss and on GS its par for the course- ie why there are pimps at every turn.
The preamp is the same in the 1064, 1066, 1073, 1084, 1099, 31102, 31104 AND MORE...
Im sorry but I find it frustrating that people have no idea and toss 1073 around like its magic... High end is EXACTLY the place to discuss that. | Hey man, did you take your medicine today?
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18th August 2012
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#96 | | Lives for gear
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One time I was posting on GS and my wife said - "Why is it important that others know what you think about gear?" Pretty good question.
There is something about cyber posting that can lead to more rudeness than in person communication.
I think a bunch of us around a table with beers and peanuts would have some good laughs about this. But the computer world can be cold.
Meanwhile, congrats OP on the pre. I did try a couple of heritages that I sold, because the eq was awesome but not better than my Chandler little devils and the pre part was awesome but not better than my Mercury V72s. But that is darn good company. And it was not like the Heritage was worse than those other units in any way. And if I had more money, I would buy the Heritage 1073/500s again - without only one complaint - I wish it was not three rack spaces. But so what. Cavemen didn't have a pre like that with a zillion rack spaces. So we can all get spoiled real easy.
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18th August 2012
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#97 | | Moderator
Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Boston,MA Providence,RI
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Originally Posted by yotonic <rant about Tony> | I'm just one man relaying my thoughts and opinion... Sorry it rubs you the wrong way. Your rant was full of inaccuracies and complete fabrications... But, whatever.
I'm sorry you are mad at me because I don't share the same opinion on something as you... That's really what it all boils down to .
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18th August 2012
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#98 | | Moderator
Joined: May 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC
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I have a vintage Neve 1073, BAE 1028 and a stereo BAE 1073MPF. They all sound great, I usually use my neve for vocals and kick and the BAE for guitars, bass and toms. The MPF at 300 ohms is incredible on heavy guitars and toms. I also had 2 MA5s in my Texas studio and they were killer. Damn, turn the knob and make music.
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18th August 2012
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#99 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2006
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Originally Posted by Ward Pike The Vintech '73 family are a tiny bit brighter and have only slightly less low-mid/bottom-end weight to them but also sound great and the EQ is very useful even though it may not be the most flexible thing ever designed. But it is true [/B] | Hate to say it, I owned the 73's for several years/ Then I got the real thing...... The vintechs sound like they were neutered in comparison. Sorry, the neve has much thicker bottom and is much smoother.
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18th August 2012
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#100 | | Lives for gear
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BAE could call it anything they like heck it's like every other made in china mic that has 47 in the name. An original neve module is the entire circuit it sounds like it dose because of everything the EQ the gain stages ect. The EQ is A magic of it's own, I know how you feel about the Harrison, an yeah I'd be happy with all those Harrison EQs , but like the Pre it brings a different take on the same function to the party that in it's own subtle way is a whole different Wow!
Your right No Dan Alexander Pre ever said 1072 or Neve , like BAE, Mercenary and some others ( who was first ? Depends who you ask) the originals were Modded Neve 1272 cards, when those became as rare as 1081s like BAE Dan Designed his own board based on the 1072, but every Dan Alexander I have ever seen has old Neve Transformers ! Not the new ones, and I don't care how exact the new ones are, there is something different about the old ones !
I'll say it again Im happy you found a pre you love! That's what's important, we lose way to much in this "best" or" most historical" clone.
It's about what ever works for you, and the only way to find that is to listen!
The Symantics of the title / model number are just that symantics, only important from a hystarical historical perspective!
So have fun make music, but if you ever get the chance spend some time with a decent old Neve or Full BAE module then you can understand for your self if it's a big deal or not.
To me it's different to you ?
It's like the fact that a large part of My Harrison face time was spent on the Smart board That Brian Anderson had Modded ( loved those 312 mic pres) , his mods to the EQ never left me going wow, but you love the stock ones. We all have different takes.
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18th August 2012
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#101 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by vintagelove Hate to say it, I owned the 73's for several years/ Then I got the real thing...... The vintechs sound like they were neutered in comparison. Sorry, the neve has much thicker bottom and is much smoother. | Quantifiable measurement of subjective reception is basically undefinable opinions. What is a tremendous difference to one person may only bve a slight difference to another.
You hear much thicker bottom from an actual Neve. I hear a thicker bottom but not as extreme as some might hear.
It amazes me that people around here don't see when they agree with someone or can't grasp that they are agreeing with someone else but need to re-word everything over and over for some sort of self-gratification.
I said the Vintech was a tiny bit brighter. You said the Neve was smoother. Same difference isn't it?
I said the Vintech had less bottom, you said the Neve had more bottom.
Same difference isn't it?
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18th August 2012
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#102 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles ,Ca.
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Random people fighting about a mic amp on the Internet
Where do you guys find all the time!? |
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19th August 2012
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#103 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Nashville
Posts: 4,964
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Originally Posted by RoundBadge Random people fighting about a mic amp on the Internet
Where do you guys find all the time!?  | Said the guy with 9000 posts...
I keed, I keed...
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19th August 2012
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#104 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jun 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 3,374
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Originally Posted by Johnkenn Said the guy with 9000 posts...
I keed, I keed... | To be fair, not all of RBs posts were random, and some of them weren't fighting about a mic amp.
They were all on the internet, tho. |
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19th August 2012
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#105 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Ward Pike I said the Vintech was a tiny bit brighter. You said the Neve was smoother. Same difference isn't it?
Duhhhhhhh  |
I get your point however, it is more than just that. The high end eq is very sharp on the vintech. It is the one thing I actually did not like..... So you combine that super soft high end boost of the neve, with the already (IMO) substantial low end "beef" and you get something that you just can't get out of the vintechs. It is not something that can be eq'd in. It is the reason people get the real thing, that sound.
ps let's be honest, they are more than a "little" brighter. However that could be differences on or neve's, rather than the vintech. But..... if you listen to soundpure's piano x73 vs neve, it is the same thing. So much so that they do not even a/b them back to back. They play the neve first, talk for a while, then play the vintechs and try to say they sound like they are from the same family. One sounds like the little sister of the family, it is quite clear to my ears.
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20th August 2012
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#106 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2004 Location: Los Angeles ,Ca.
Posts: 9,463
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Originally Posted by DarkSky Media To be fair, not all of RBs posts were random, and some of them weren't fighting about a mic amp.
They were all on the internet, tho.  | And lately from my iPhone from location so they're nice in short lol
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