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Old 6th August 2012   #1
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1176 setting..help me out

Hi gs's

I'm trying to understand the 1176 settings for a while now...
This is my chain:

Manley mic through a focusrite producerspack ( pretty safe settings, only the loud peaks etc will be driven back a bit) into my RME FF400
When i've tracked a lead vocal i want to give it somemflavor using the 1176
It needs to sound poppy but edgy.

Someone any tips on ' to go settings' which will be in some sort of safe zone from where I can play around with?

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how about using your fingers to tweak, and your ears to listen?
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When tracking vocals, I usually go with 12:1 ratio, attack 6, release 7, about 5-7db gain reduction.
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When tracking vocals, I usually go with 12:1 ratio, attack 6, release 7, about 5-7db gain reduction.

And what about in the mixing stage? Cause I'm already tracking through my producerspack
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the knobs on an 1176 are pretty touchy.
especially the release and input.

you have to use your ears and turn the knobs till it serves the production most effectively.
dont be afraid to slam it and also dont be afraid to barely kiss it or even turn off the compression completely and use it as a line amp.
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There seems to be no end to these "suggested compressor settings" threads!

As someone else said: turn the knobs and use your ears.

If it takes a minute to find the sound you like, it takes a minute. If it takes 30 minutes, then it takes 30 minutes. But the experience of turning the knobs and hearing what they do and becoming familiar with the sounds you can expect to get is priceless. It'll aid you in the future when you're trying to find "that" sound.
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Start with the old Dr Pepper setting

1176 dr pepper trick
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And what about in the mixing stage? Cause I'm already tracking through my producerspack
I usually just use my hardware on the front end and go ITB afterwards. Once in a while I'll use my LA2A in a mix.

I'd just tweak until it sounds good... but if you search I believe there have been a couple of threads with a lot of different setting suggestions.
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the UAD manuals are pretty cool.
Check out the Insiders' Secrets section in the manual below:

http://www.uaudio.com/media/assetlib...6ln_manual.pdf
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remember the attack and release controls go backwards (at least to my mind)
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What I don't understand is how you have a Manley microphone and a 1176 and don't know how to use an 1176???
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What I don't understand is how you have a Manley microphone and a 1176 and don't know how to use an 1176???
A lot of folk buy Ferraris and yet look at all those crash videos on youtube....
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A lot of folk buy Ferraris and yet look at all those crash videos on youtube....
The term, learn to walk before you run holds true in both the instances.
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A lot of folk buy Ferraris and yet look at all those crash videos on youtube....
lol

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I found some sort of strange satisfaction in watching that...does that make me a little bit cruel?
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This might be a good place to start.

How to Use an 1176 Compressor - PUREMIX
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I found some sort of strange satisfaction in watching that...does that make me a little bit cruel?
Nah, i'm sure expensive insurance fixed everything there :D
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If set right, the 1176 can actually INCREASE the intelligibility of vocals, while controlling the dynamics.
It's all in the attack and release settings.
Tweak and listen.
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while we're at it can somebody please give me some 'go to settings' fader positions on Pro Tools as I have a rock song that I want to mix. There are 50 channels. It needs to top Billboard and sell a couple million.

Pffft!!!!
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while we're at it can somebody please give me some 'go to settings' fader positions on Pro Tools as I have a rock song that I want to mix. There are 50 channels. It needs to top Billboard and sell a couple million.

Pffft!!!!
All you have to do is put a pirated Waves L2 and pull the left fader down until the right meter is going down to about halfway. You will be set!
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[hint] - The attack and release knobs turn the opposite way of most other compressors.

Clockwise is faster, counter clockwise is slower.
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Funny, attack and release are the control i touch the less
on my 76's, I use 'em ala CLA (granted I only have 3..) i send
the track to a different one before changing the setting,
input/output and ratio change more frequently.
I need more 76s so I won't touch them no more lol
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When in doubt, be conservative with the 1176 when tracking. You can always use it later in the mix and be more aggressive then... its a better time to practice when you can tweak to your heart's content. That being said, once you've got the hang of it, go ahead and be more creative in your tracking.

It took me a few days to get a good feel of the 1176. At the end of the day, just use your ears.
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For vocals: Ratio 4, Attack 10 o´clock, Release 3 o´clock, input 12-14 o´clock and output somewhere between 9-10 o´clock ...make sure your output level is somewhere between -10 and - 14 db . The more input and the higher ratio the more compression and slight dist is added...e.g. for rock vocals prob. ratio 8, for softer 4...but it always depends on the voice and performance, mic, etc.
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For tracking vox I typically use 4:1 and just get the input set to only take off a few db on the peaks. Attack and release at 10 and 2, but adjust to taste. Set the output so the level isn't pushing too hard. I just try to get a little compression and a little of the 1176 flavor when tracking, but nothing to severe.
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Please allow me to share my experience...

It is very hard to advice someone on presets and settings about an 1176. The reason being that all models sound different. As we found out while making the video (and were really surprised about it!) is that in order to achieve to same sound with 3 different plugin emulations... settings had to be drastically different on each plugin.

I guess the only piece of advice worth taking in that case is "tweak and listen"

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Wait, are we talking about real 1176s or plugins?
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I am talking about both.
Even plugins are modeled after different hardware units.
So whether it be a hardware unit or a plugins, identical settings yield complete different results.
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I am talking about both.
Even plugins are modeled after different hardware units.
So whether it be a hardware unit or a plugins, identical settings yield complete different results.
"complete different results" it's a bit of a stretch..
gain staging is different in different models, that's what I'd say
it's the main difference, so Input and Output level are what
can drastically change, consequently the distortion introduced.
Tone due to different components is probably the second difference,
but the effect on its behavior on how it performs gain reduction
has lil impact. Attack and release values should all be the same (not sure
for about it for EVERY model ever made).
Point is, if you know how to set a '76, I'm pretty sure you know how to set
a black face as well as a blue stripe.. which should be - as for every compressor - involve the use of ears and taste more than some
supposedly go-to setting or the actual knowledge of each and every component inside the compressor
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I generally like the input turned all the way up. 10+ db of GR on a hardware unit sounds fantastic to me, and if its too squashed just mix in a little of the try vocals ;-)

No need to hate--the 1176 is a little different than most compressors.
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