Connecting SSL 4000 G+ automation to Studer A-800

[T_R_S]

What kind of synchronizer do you have for your Studer?

[gear is cool]

Other than a Konnektor and Sync I/O, I don't have one.

[muziekschuur]

May be this?

Fostex 8770 -Studer A800 MKII interface for 4030 sync.. | eBay

[Fletcher]

Originally Posted by T_R_S

What kind of synchronizer do you have for your Studer?

You only need a synchronizer if you're locking two or more machines. The SS will chase code without a problem.

My only advice is that you stripe code before you record anything else as it will often bleed a bit onto other tracks that are near it if you print it hotter than -7... and that you keep things like kik drums, bass, etc. away from it as the 60Hz waves can modulate the code which can give the SSL problems in deciphering your exact location.

Peace

[Steffmo]

You have to keep your digial and analog concepts separated. If all you are trying to do is slave the SSL automation to the Studer its a purely analog process. Sort of like slaving a midi sequencer to tape.

The Studer is the master, except the SSL computer takes over for the now unneeded Studer Autolocator. But don't let that confuse the issue, the Studer is still the master.

It"s analog, so there is no word clock tp worry about, unless you later add a DAW to the mix.

[jeffsochor]

It's been a while, but just plugging SMPTE into the computer will suffice for fader automation, but if you are looking for console machine control, you need to fab a cable (DB25 on the SSL side, can't remember on the Studer...). Service manuals for each will have the pinout, and probably any old school SSL tech will have a few laying around. Remember never to connect a remote / control cable while the multitrack is powered on, or you'll have a whole bunch of new questions for the forum.

[T_R_S]

Originally Posted by Fletcher

You only need a synchronizer if you're locking two or more machines. The SS will chase code without a problem.

My only advice is that you stripe code before you record anything else as it will often bleed a bit onto other tracks that are near it if you print it hotter than -7... and that you keep things like kik drums, bass, etc. away from it as the 60Hz waves can modulate the code which can give the SSL problems in deciphering your exact location.

Peace

The OP asked about tac and tally so I assumed (Machine Control) a sync box would be needed.

[jeffsochor]

Again, it's been a while, but I'm pretty sure the machine control cable will carry the tach. When the tape is winding, the SMPTE is not being read by the computer in real time so the tach pulses give a more accurate response to locating cue points. The computer looks for a tach rate with parameters specific to the multitrack.

If OP is new to this whole analog / SMPTE thing, he should check out the Brainstorm SR-26. It has a real time TC refresher and distribution, I used to always leave it inline between tape and computer. SMPTE is usually printed on an edge track, and if there are cross-talk, level, or print-through issues it can fix a lot of headaches.

[gear is cool]

Thanks guys for all the helpful hints.

For the moment I'm going to use only SMPTE and see how it goes.

I have years of experience striping SMPTE to lock Studer and PT together.
I do this on occasion when I run out of tracks on the tape machine.

The SSL is a newer addition here (had a 80-b) and would like to use the machine control from the center section which I've learned requires a A-800 transport cable to the S29 port underneath the desk.

The studio that had this desk had a 827 and the plug/cable is different than a A800.

Oh boy

[gear is cool]

It works...awesome!

[mata_haze]

Originally Posted by gear is cool

It works...awesome!

ENJOY!

Mattia.

[jslstrat]

Originally Posted by gear is cool

Thanks guys for all the helpful hints.

For the moment I'm going to use only SMPTE and see how it goes.

I have years of experience striping SMPTE to lock Studer and PT together.
I do this on occasion when I run out of tracks on the tape machine.

The SSL is a newer addition here (had a 80-b) and would like to use the machine control from the center section which I've learned requires a A-800 transport cable to the S29 port underneath the desk.

The studio that had this desk had a 827 and the plug/cable is different than a A800.

Oh boy

80B,s Rock!!!!!....:-).........I am getting A827 analog analog analog.............

[gear is cool]

John!

[jslstrat]

Yep...:-).....Me and Brad Mowen from "The Accused" have a new band Heavy Heavy.....;-).....I will head down soon..want to see new set up!

[gear is cool]

Awesome...please do!

Yes, 80-b's rock, so does the SSL