3rd August 2012
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#1 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Mar 2011 Location: Metro Detroit
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Thread Starter | Does anyone use a Chandler Limited Germaniam for vox?
Besides guitar and bass, which it excels at, is anyone using it for vox or anything else?
I used it on my own voice as a test, seems nice. It worked well on a kick also.
Anyone else?
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3rd August 2012
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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Great for thin vocals, if you ask me.
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4th August 2012
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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There's no more or less reason to use the Germanium on a given source than any other preamp.
Either it's the right tool for the job or it isn't.
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4th August 2012
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#4 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jun 2012
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| Very cool...
I used it and I was going for just a tap of distortion and it was beautiful for this project. I used the thick button, pad and driver it pretty hard.
It took a lot of sssssss problems and gave it a larger then life tone, big.
I really liked it so much I am trying it again on a deferent project.
I also have the Tone Control, as soon as I can I'll be getting the Germanium Comoressors.
The ability to drive the germs gives it a interesting sound.
Hope this helps a little.
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4th August 2012
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#5 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Mar 2011 Location: Metro Detroit
Posts: 289
Thread Starter |
Cool, I was just curious if anybody else is using them for other things. I have two that I use on guitar amps all the time. Seems as if they have a reputation for being a one trick pony. Lately I have been using them on kick, bass, vox, and it really sounds great.
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4th August 2012
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#6 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2003 Location: L.A.
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I just did a live quarter in my studio... 2 girls singing, an acoustic gtr and dobro... all in one room... vocals went through germs... I couldn't ask for a better pre to capture the vibe I was going for and I have tons... I'll see if I can post a little snippet...
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4th August 2012
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#7 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2005 Location: Nashville, TN
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I use them on Vocals, bass, guitars, DI Keys, Leslie cabinet, steel... Anything really.
Right now I'm using a pair of them on overheads for Wynonna Judd's next album.
414BULs (or Cascade Vinjets depending on the song) -> Germaniums -> API 2500 equals luscious!
I don't think I've found anything it really sounds bad on... But I have plenty of other options that I may prefer at the time or for different tones/flavours.
Use you ears. If you like it...
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6th August 2012
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#8 | | Gear addict
Joined: Aug 2003
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Nice with ribbons on vox
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16th August 2012
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#9 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jun 2012
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I really liked them also on acoustic guitar, it gives a coolm"vintage" kind of sound.
The things that I really like is the ability to drive the germs or leave them "clean", yet they will have weight and character to the sound.
Also percussion, tambourine, chimes, bells, ect...
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16th August 2012
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#10 | | Gear nut
Joined: Nov 2009
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Originally Posted by Hyder boy Seems as if they have a reputation for being a one trick pony. | oh man..... if the germs are one trick ponies, i'll take a 12-pack of "trick".
love em. on anything/everything.
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16th August 2012
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#11 | | Lives for food
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Here's a demo I like that is the singer and her guitar through a P67 and Germanium Pre. I've also listened to another youtube somewhere that was testing the Germanimum with violas and cellos and it's great for that too. IMO, the Germanium is one of the most color-filled pre there is, with its dial-in mojo capability. Seems to me that its in a completely different neighborhood from the other popular T series Chandlers......... Lizzy Loeb & Giulio Carmassi - "The One" - YouTube
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19th August 2012
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#12 | | Gear addict
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I got a Chandler Germ 500 a few days ago, first impressions is that it's a great pre. I tried it on a sibilant vocal and it real helped deal with the problem and warm things up .
Really looking forward to trying it on more sources , but a very big initial thumbs up !
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20th August 2012
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#13 | | Gear interested
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the germ is my go-to pre for hip hop vocals. gain 9, feedback 2, pad and thick. perfect every time for what i'm looking for.
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20th August 2012
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#14 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Nurember
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Mine sounds fantastic on vocals, as it does on guitars. I actually bought a second Germ Pre, i.e. the racked version with external PSU, as I learned that the racked version had superior specs compared to the first (!) edition of the API-500 Germ version. The new 2nd generation 500 version sould perform in the same ballpark, from what I've heard...
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21st August 2012
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#15 | | Gear interested
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Used it as an insert on a vocal recently. The original track was overly compressed and lacked depth. Just for the hell of it I dialed in the feedback knob on the germainium pre and had a very cool effect. Kind of "saved the vibe" so to speak.
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22nd August 2012
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#16 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Mar 2011 Location: Metro Detroit
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Thread Starter |
Hey thanks for the input, I have been using my two for guitars and bass along with my neve's for some time now. Just seems as if these are considered one trick ponies, when they are certainly not.
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22nd August 2012
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#17 | | 70% Coffee, 30% Beer
Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Quincy, MA
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Originally Posted by Hyder boy Just seems as if these are considered one trick ponies, when they are certainly not. | I think that is the really kool thing about the GERM; in how many different ways you can use it. Pushing the inputs harder, and using less feedback, and reversely more feedback with less input. Lots of tonal variety. Also the THICK switch, throws a curve ball on the unit, and changes it up even more. Granted, it is always gonna sound like a GERM box, syrupy and thick, really creamy and special sounding - but I think its pretty rad, overall. All the GERM stuff has a special vibe to it.
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22nd August 2012
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#18 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2005 Location: Nashville, TN
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Originally Posted by Hyder boy ... Just seems as if these are considered one trick ponies, when they are certainly not. | I still can't figure out where the supposed opinion came from that they are one trick ponies...
They are an amazingly versatile pre... and anyone who has actually used one would know this. Dont believe 95% of the shite you read on here... including what Im saying. |
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23rd August 2012
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#19 | | Gear nut
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Originally Posted by Kingtone I still can't figure out where the supposed opinion came from that they are one trick ponies...
They are an amazingly versatile pre...  | so funny because come to think of it, i've had my best moments with it - and mind you, there are tons of great ones to choose from - on the stuff it's "not supposed" to be for.
cello, for instance. KILLS.
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23rd August 2012
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#20 | | Lives for food
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There's a youtube shootout somewhere with about 20 pres ... all for a cello. Or maybe the girl was playing a violin. No, I think it is a cello. The Chandler Germ won that shootout. I'm not big on shootouts, but the sheer number of pres being tried out on only a cello was pretty impressive as a project.
I personally keep hinting to Wade to send one to me to try out, but he doesn't answer.
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23rd August 2012
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#21 | | Gear nut
Joined: Nov 2009
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Originally Posted by thenoodle There's a youtube shootout somewhere with about 20 pres ... all for a cello. Or maybe the girl was playing a violin. No, I think it is a cello. The Chandler Germ won that shootout. I'm not big on shootouts, but the sheer number of pres being tried out on only a cello was pretty impressive as a project.
I personally keep hinting to Wade to send one to me to try out, but he doesn't answer. | omg, i had no idea chandler made cellos!!
(sorry.)
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23rd August 2012
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#22 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2005 Location: Nashville, TN
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Originally Posted by cornwall6000 ...on the stuff it's "not supposed" to be for.
cello, for instance. KILLS. | But seriously, who told you it's 'not supposed to be for' anything?
No personal attack intended.. But I just don't understand where people get this mythical information.
Just because someone once said right at the beginning that it was great on guitars, doesn't mean it is not supposed to be for anything else.
This 'Gearslutz Logic' is weird.
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23rd August 2012
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#23 | | Gear nut
Joined: Nov 2009
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Originally Posted by Kingtone But seriously, who told you it's 'not supposed to be for' anything?
No personal attack intended.. But I just don't understand where people get this mythical information. | you don't understand where people get their information, and it seems like you're asking me who specifically "told me"? can't really answer, but it may have been the same entity that told you it was.... "great on guitars"....?
certain products develop a reputation for being great at certain tasks. THAT can lead to it being written off, often unfairly, for other purposes.
not just GS, either, everywhere. "word-of-mouth", if you will.
i think the germ pre is the poster-child for precisely that scenario.
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23rd August 2012
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#24 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Mar 2011 Location: Metro Detroit
Posts: 289
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by cornwall6000 you don't understand where people get their information, and it seems like you're asking me who specifically "told me"? can't really answer, but it may have been the same entity that told you it was.... "great on guitars"....?
certain products develop a reputation for being great at certain tasks. THAT can lead to it being written off, often unfairly, for other purposes.
not just GS, either, everywhere. "word-of-mouth", if you will.
i think the germ pre is the poster-child for precisely that scenario. | Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. When I bought my pair, I got them on the great reputation they have for guitars. After trying them on several different sources, I was surprised at how well they worked. Based on LOTS of opinions I have heard and read, they seem to have a reputation for being a one trick pony, I was just curious if anyone else thought they were great on vox, as I do. Kick and bass as well.
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23rd August 2012
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#25 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2005 Location: Basel, Switzerland
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Originally Posted by andychamp There's no more or less reason to use the Germanium on a given source than any other preamp.
Either it's the right tool for the job or it isn't. | Funny thing, this echo you get up here in the mountains...
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