8th October 2012
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#61 | | Lives for gear
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Slate Dragon...variables for days.
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8th October 2012
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#62 | | Lives for gear
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1176 ALL DAY LONG. And get A UREI (rev. D, E, F or Blue Stripe but way costly)... I tried most of the 1176 variations (except the Mohog) and the UREI stands out by a long shot, IMO.
Check out some clips here I've compiled along with a bunch of other comps.
Distressor is included. Retro Sta-Level, CL1b, MC77, Distressor EL8 - processed files
IMO, the distressor is versatile but I don't find the tone to change no matter how you press the buttons. I'd rather have several boxes with their own unique tone than one box trying to emulate everything.
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8th October 2012
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#63 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by RKrizman It's so badass it's sick.
-R | yep I own 4 of them, and there is a reason this unit has sold more then 25,000 and still selling.
Distressor all the way I say.
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8th October 2012
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#64 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by AllAboutTone You are correct, different tools for different people. We all have our likes and dislikes.
Yes the knobs are very accurate, big and ugly to. They look like a kids toy with wheels. Never understood why so darn big. | Don't you like big Knobs Mr Allabouttone?
Big Knobs feel so much better to my hands....
The look better also, something about Big knobs late at night |
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8th October 2012
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#65 | | Gear addict
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This thread has established that there is a distinction between the UA 1176LN (being kinda bland) and the Urie Rev F or earlier being the way to go.
So where does the Mohog fall in? Is it more aesthetic than the UA model? Maybe more true to the Urie models or somewhere in between?
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8th October 2012
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#66 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by illacov | Has anyone compared these to the Mohog?
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19th October 2012
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#67 | | Lives for gear
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Bump. I'd love to hear somebody with some insight on the Revive 1176 vs. the Mohog. Anyone? Thanks.
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20th October 2012
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#69 | | Gear addict
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The clones and reissues ACT (ie compression character) like the originals but they just don't sound like the originals.
I ran a vocal tonight through a vintage Helios module, eq boosted at 400 and 700 into an 1176 rev F and it just sounded awesome. Im often amazed at the frequency choices I make on a Helios- like no other...
But its the sonic character and top end on the originals thats different. The UA sounds sterile to me... And the top end on the the clones isn't right.
As for the distressor compared to an original? Not my cup of tea.
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20th October 2012
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#70 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Emwolb The clones and reissues ACT (ie compression character) like the originals but they just don't sound like the originals.
I ran a vocal tonight through a vintage Helios module, eq boosted at 400 and 700 into an 1176 rev F and it just sounded awesome. Im often amazed at the frequency choices I make on a Helios- like no other...
But its the sonic character and top end on the originals thats different. The UA sounds sterile to me... And the top end on the the clones isn't right.
As for the distressor compared to an original? Not my cup of tea. | i am with you that the top end on many of the clones is just is not right when compared to an original Urei black face.
but................... you should check out the Mohog.
that one got it right to my ears.
swap out the input tranny for a UTC 0-12 and you are in 1176 heaven.
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20th October 2012
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#71 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Emwolb The clones and reissues ACT (ie compression character) like the originals but they just don't sound like the originals.
I ran a vocal tonight through a vintage Helios module, eq boosted at 400 and 700 into an 1176 rev F and it just sounded awesome. Im often amazed at the frequency choices I make on a Helios- like no other...
But its the sonic character and top end on the originals thats different. The UA sounds sterile to me... And the top end on the the clones isn't right.
As for the distressor compared to an original? Not my cup of tea. | Have you tried the Mnats with the Ed Anderson trafos?
Most of the G1176s of the world and later versions before Hairball offered kits were using either Cinemags or OEP transformers. The EA trafos for the 1176 are only in the last 2 years or so.
I liked the examples I've heard of the Mohog as well but more so because it was unique compared to the 1176s I've experienced, rather than a clone. I preferred the Carnhill transformers over the Edcor.
So far most every example I've heard of the Revive has been pure bad ass.
I think both the Mohog and the Revive 1176 REV D are high end pieces without the high end price tag.
Revive is also a viable source for assembly of the Hairball audio kits btw.
I'm currently getting a pair of REV Fs (EA trafo in and out) put together by them. Should take maybe 1 week to get them back. Can't wait!
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21st October 2012
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#72 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by skybluerental i am with you that the top end on many of the clones is just is not right when compared to an original Urei black face.
but................... you should check out the Mohog.
that one got it right to my ears.
swap out the input tranny for a UTC 0-12 and you are in 1176 heaven. | I put a Jensen input transformer on my original. It sounds a little different but still 100% 1176ln. Not better, not worse, just slightly different.
I haven't tried the mohog. But if its good , then its got a great pricetag!
I can't believe the originals sell for around $2500...
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21st October 2012
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#73 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Frank_Case The question that puzzled even the greatest philosophers: 1176 or Distressor? Do you want character or do you just want to smash things? 1176=Character. | Distressor definitely also has a strong character of its own.
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21st October 2012
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#74 | | Lives for gear
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I have a pair of mohogs and really like them.
I dont find myself living in any particular transformer mode.
Its definitely program dependent.
Carnhill is darker.
If i am mixing someone elses tracks and the vocal
Is digi bright and spitty for example, the carnhill gives it a nice rounding off.
Your variage may mile
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21st October 2012
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#75 | | Lives for gear
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I recently aquired a Hairball bluestripe rev A. I already have a distressor and a 1176 (6176). They are different. I like them on different things. Each do their own thing. I like them all. I am glad I have all three. Dont you want all three? This IS gearslutz BTW.
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21st October 2012
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#76 | | Lives for gear
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Both very versatile.
Distressor is more of a chameleon.
1176 also has many uses, but a more recognizable tone.
The REAL question is: which one to get FIRST?
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21st October 2012
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#77 | | Gear OCD
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OP, what did you go with?
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21st October 2012
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#78 | | Gear addict
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I'm in the market for both items and can't decide which to go with first.
What would help me decide (and possibly the OP as well) is if everyone would post what's their favorite thing to use each one on. Tracking, bussing, what instruments, etc.
I for instance have a Vintech X73 that goes straight into a RME FF800, so in my case I want to put something between them for tracking (not on everything of course) but can double later for stereo bussing something else.
I apologize in advance, I'm not trying hijack the thread but felt it wouldn't help to start another one on the same subject.
Cheers!
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23rd October 2012
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#79 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by s.d.finley I already have a distressor and a 1176 (6176). | The comp in the 6176 is different from the UA 1176 reissue... the 6176 and 2-1176 comps are a lot cleaner than the UA1176.
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21st November 2012
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#80 | | Gear interested
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I have both. I would definitely recommend the 1176. It's a standard, and it sounds great on vocals with a cool high end presence that we all know and love. I honestly have never been happy with the Distressor on vocals - it gets dark and mushy. I love it on snare, bass, kick, and lots of other stuff - but the 1176 can do that also. Get both eventually, even if they are the only two hardware compressors you own, but I say go with the 1176 first.
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21st November 2012
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#81 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by - tony c - I have both. I would definitely recommend the 1176. It's a standard, and it sounds great on vocals with a cool high end presence that we all know and love. I honestly have never been happy with the Distressor on vocals - it gets dark and mushy. I love it on snare, bass, kick, and lots of other stuff - but the 1176 can do that also. Get both eventually, even if they are the only two hardware compressors you own, but I say go with the 1176 first. | Ditto. Distressors may be versatile in terms of dynamics, but they have a sound, as Rick Krizman noted above, and it's a sound that doesn't always jive with the material. The 1176 has a sound as well - one that is more widely desirable and useable IMO.
So, yes, get both - but get the 1176 first would be my advice.
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21st November 2012
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#82 | | Lives for gear
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Get both. An 1176 (a good Rev of coarse) and a Distressor make a great team. I chain them frequently.
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21st November 2012
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#83 | | Lives for gear
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I like them both.
The Distressor is much more versatile and can be used as a distortion box aswell as a compressor, it can add attitude if that's what you want. One of the best comps for parallel compressing drum hits especially if your looking for punchy fat drums.
The 1176 is smoother and has a certain mojo which works very well on bass and vocals most of the time, especially when tracking.
I dont think you could go wrong with either, and if you had both it would be very difficult to give one up for the other.
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22nd November 2012
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#84 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by MrTechno Don't you like big Knobs Mr Allabouttone?
Big Knobs feel so much better to my hands....
The look better also, something about Big knobs late at night  | BIG KNOBS ,small print |
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22nd November 2012
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#85 | | Lives for gear
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I just got a 1176 and it is fantastic on vocals. So easy to use and make vocals sit in the mix.
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22nd November 2012
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#86 | | Gear addict
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What are the different versions of the 1176 (which differences) and what are the different possibilites on buying a new one today (even mods, copies, ect)?
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22nd November 2012
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#87 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by scorpix74 What are the different versions of the 1176 (which differences) and what are the different possibilites on buying a new one today (even mods, copies, ect)? | The answer could easily fill a small book . . . |
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22nd November 2012
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#88 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by scorpix74 What are the different versions of the 1176 (which differences) and what are the different possibilites on buying a new one today (even mods, copies, ect)?
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Originally Posted by ray_subsonic The answer could easily fill a small book . . .  | Or a gear forum :-)
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7th January 2013
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#89 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by pan60 I just ordered a WesAudio Beta76, should be here soon.
Just loved the feature offered on this beast.
I'll keep you posted on my thoughts.  | Bumping this one Big time, as require some knowledge....Pan, what did you think of the WesAudio Beta76?
Any Good or is it just another poor cousin to the 1176??
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7th January 2013
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#90 | | Lives for gear
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Since you already have an LA-2A, it's 1176 all the way baby! The only reason I would choose the distressor over it is for light, soft knee compression while tracking and you have that covered with the LA-2A.
I'd actually agree with JohnKenn, though, the Slate Dragon is an 1176 with Distressor versatility and is freakin' awesome. Hmm, I told myself I'd buy it again when I could when I sold mine to upgrade something else, might be time to do that!
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