6th June 2012
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#1 | | Gear nut
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 105
Thread Starter | Adam AX8 or KRK 10-3?
I currently have yamaha HS80's, and ATH50's that i reference back and forth on.
The yamaha hs80's are nice but a little weak in the low end to me, and i was looking into something a little more in the high end for monitoring.
Right now the hs80's are my primary speakers and i want to make them my secondary and get some better speakers.
The 2 choices i am looking at are:
1.KRK 10-3 (i like how the woofer crossover is 400, more accurate lows)plus that it has a 3inch also for the mids up to 3.75 khz.
2.ADAM audio AX8's. 8.5 woofer and 200 watt. They seem to have great reviews.
Which of these 2 will compliment my current equipment and be the best bet.
KRK's are about 1k for both, and the ADAM's are about 900 each.
Thanks in advance.
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6th June 2012
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#2 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jun 2010 Location: Mesa, AZ |
I haven't tried the 8" version, but the 7" Adams are superb. The KRKs are lowend compared to them IMO.
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6th June 2012
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#3 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2011
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KRK 10-3 is crap,its have weak amplification
listen,I know Adam Ax range pretty well and I am telling you,get pair of A7x rather than A8x and then add adam sub 10 MKII later
just for comparsion,adam a7x have 50w amp for X-Art tweeter and 100w for its 7" woofer,150w
10-3 have 30w for tweeter,30w for mid woofer and 80w for 10" woofer... total 140w
strong aplification is extremly important in my opinion for good bass,good quality and longevity
HS80s no matter what they say,that its hi fi crap and whatever is good for the price but AX range from Adam in my opinion piss over the MP line of Yamaha so logicaly steamroll the HS series
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6th June 2012
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#4 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 542
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Originally Posted by MatrixClaw I haven't tried the 8" version, but the 7" Adams are superb. The KRKs are lowend compared to them IMO. |
the Adam A8x is 8.5" rather than 8".... I am not saying its huge difference but its fact,like Mackie HR824 isnt 8" too but its 8.75"
that half inch isnt anything extreme but hey,more air gets movin,that means more bass and more volume,never bad thing
a7x with MKII,with low crossover..... it clears up the A7x midrange and the sub freqencies,are obviously much cleaner,the A7x not even A8x dont have size of cabinet and woofer big enough to properly handle subs around 40hz,they will go that low but the tight laser like sound of MkII is so much better
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6th June 2012
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#5 | | Gear Head
Joined: Feb 2009 Location: UK
Posts: 31
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I have the A8X's. Originally got the Sub12 at the advice of a sales guy, but it was too much for my 8x12 room. so it went back and I spent the money on treatment.
After treating the room, now to me the sound is amazing. Hearing things I've never heard before.
THe Adams also feel like a quality product when you unpack them, which I certainly didn't feel with the Rocket 8...
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6th June 2012
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#6 | | Gear nut
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 105
Thread Starter |
Thanks for all the replies the Adams look like they are the way to go. I wish there was somebody who sold them so I could listen before buying.
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6th June 2012
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#7 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Nov 2011 Location: Upstate NY
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Adam AX series sound amazing imo
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7th June 2012
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#8 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Greenpoint, Brooklyn, NYC
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I'm sorry to report I have no experience with the rockets . I recently bought A8X's though . I love them . One of my best gear purchases of late .
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7th June 2012
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#9 | | Gear nut
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 105
Thread Starter |
Out of all the monitors I have heard reviews on it seems the Adams have almost as high of praise as barefoots, it also seems apparent more people opt for Adams too. It seems this is the best monitor choice around.
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7th June 2012
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#10 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 542
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Originally Posted by Faymus Media Out of all the monitors I have heard reviews on it seems the Adams have almost as high of praise as barefoots, it also seems apparent more people opt for Adams too. It seems this is the best monitor choice around. | it isnt perfect but in the price range its most perfect... that X-Art,its so sharp and clear I can see how it can be annoying for people who are used to slightly smeared not that sharp sound of conventional tweeters,I am not saying it will result in better mixdown,I just say its better technolodgy
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7th June 2012
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#11 | | Gear nut
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 105
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Neodym it isnt perfect but in the price range its most perfect... that X-Art,its so sharp and clear I can see how it can be annoying for people who are used to slightly smeared not that sharp sound of conventional tweeters,I am not saying it will result in better mixdown,I just say its better technolodgy | if i learn them well, will they help me to provide more accurate mixdowns over my yamaha hs80's?
Also is it safe to buy B stock or blemished ones? they are 999.99 new but i found some blemished and Bstock ones for 799.99.
What do you recommend?
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7th June 2012
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#12 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Helena, AR
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I just saw those B-stock ones for $799 and was coming here to mention them to you. There are only 6 of them available at that price - I'd say jump on them... There is always the return policy if you don't like them.
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7th June 2012
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#13 | | Gear nut
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 105
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by tvent I just saw those B-stock ones for $799 and was coming here to mention them to you. There are only 6 of them available at that price - I'd say jump on them... There is always the return policy if you don't like them. | should i take the 799 ones from zzsounds as b stock, or blemished? or should i take the musiciansfriend ones?
are they going to perform like new?
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7th June 2012
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#14 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jun 2010 Location: Mesa, AZ |
If you're not apposed to used, you could buy a pair for the price of one new.
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7th June 2012
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#15 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Oct 2004 Location: Helena, AR
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I've never had any problems with B-stock. I've ordered B-stock from AMS (Zzounds' sister company, I believe) and Musician's Friend both (an amp from AMS and a turntable from Musician's Friend, fwiw - I still have them both.)
Blemised, If I am correct, usually means a customer return. Given a choice, I'd probably go the B-stock route - but that's just me.
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7th June 2012
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#16 | | Gear nut
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 105
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by MatrixClaw If you're not apposed to used, you could buy a pair for the price of one new. | woa, if i can find a good condition used pair for around 1k i would definitely do it! question is where? Quote:
Originally Posted by tvent I've never had any problems with B-stock. I've ordered B-stock from AMS (Zzounds' sister company, I believe) and Musician's Friend both (an amp from AMS and a turntable from Musician's Friend, fwiw - I still have them both.)
Blemised, If I am correct, usually means a customer return. Given a choice, I'd probably go the B-stock route - but that's just me. | yea i agree i believe bstock on zzsounds is a manufacturer demo and comes from ADAM but i am not sure.
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7th June 2012
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#17 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Greenpoint, Brooklyn, NYC
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I bought B stock Blemished from AMS . They were a $600 each (a brief discount that I jumped on) . Before I bought them I called and asked about functionality and warranty . They carry a warranty from both AMS and Adam . They are fully functional and sound  . 2 months in and using them daily . The blemish were a few scratches on the bottoms of the speakers that I will never see . Otherwise they look new . I was interested in A7X's and feared these A8X's might be a bit much for my room but at that price and the security of a warranty and 40 day return policy I went for It . They sound great in my room .
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7th June 2012
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#18 | | Gear nut
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 105
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Pale Pyramid I bought B stock Blemished from AMS . They were a $600 each (a brief discount that I jumped on) . Before I bought them I called and asked about functionality and warranty . They carry a warranty from both AMS and Adam . They are fully functional and sound  . 2 months in and using them daily . The blemish were a few scratches on the bottoms of the speakers that I will never see . Otherwise they look new . I was interested in A7X's and feared these A8X's might be a bit much for my room but at that price and the security of a warranty and 40 day return policy I went for It . They sound great in my room . | should i sell my yamaha hs80's to fund this? or is it a good idea to have both?
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7th June 2012
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#19 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 542
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Originally Posted by Faymus Media if i learn them well, will they help me to provide more accurate mixdowns over my yamaha hs80's?
Also is it safe to buy B stock or blemished ones? they are 999.99 new but i found some blemished and Bstock ones for 799.99.
What do you recommend? | buy new,older ones had port noise problems,I am big fan of carefull second hand shopping as it saves so much cash and many times the person didnt even opened the box but I wouldnt do it with Ax series for port noise reasons
yes your mix will be better,I mean AB the Yamaha with Ax series.... that X Art oh man that like crystal laser beam of distortion free freqencies that reach batshit crazy high extension,and I mean the bat part for real they go to 50k
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7th June 2012
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#20 | | Gear addict
Joined: Aug 2011
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DONT WAIST MONEY ON CHEAP KRK .
if you find a pair used for $200 go for it
Any thing below there best just isn't worth buying KRKs low to mid priced stuff just isn't very good. COOL yes good NO
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7th June 2012
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#21 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 542
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Originally Posted by phatbeatstudio DONT WAIST MONEY ON KRK .
if you find a pair used for $200 go for it
Any thing below there best just isn't worth buying there there low mid end stuff just isn't very good. COOL yes good NO |
actualy KRK would be my choice over many better monitors if I was buying HIFI,their hyped low end and less revealing nature would definately be much more enjoyable
I heard the RP6g2 and it have baller bass for cheap 6"
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21st July 2012
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#22 | | 500 series nutjob
Joined: Nov 2004 Location: 500 series Guru SKANK! ; )
Posts: 11,293
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I love focal as a company and love the monitors I have tried.
I would not rule them out.
They make some smokin sweet boxs!
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22nd July 2012
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#23 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2006 Location: Chicago
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I got the Adams A7x's not to long ago.
I'm using them with an M audio sub.
I actually returned the hs80 with sub to get the Adams. To me the hs 80s were pure fuzz, nothing like the NS 10s in the punch range.
I like Adams, but they seem to be lacking in the mids.
The vocals and guitars sometimes translate weird.
I have to listen to my trusty NS 10's to get a better picture of where the vocals are actually sitting.
I was talking to a top ME and he said he always recommends dynaudio for the producers who ask.
Wish I would have asked him first.
I'm not totally disappointed, just wish the mids were more like what I'm used to. I've tweaked around with the settings on the back and it's gotten better.
Not sure about the AX8s, never heard them, but i can bet there better than the hs80s.
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23rd July 2012
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#24 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jul 2012
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Originally Posted by pan60 I love focal as a company and love the monitors I have tried.
I would not rule them out.
They make some smokin sweet boxs! | +1. The solos are pure class, and in your price range.
If you can, sell your 80's and save up for Focal Twins.
Also, make sure you audition the speakers before a final purchase is decided.
Very key.
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23rd July 2012
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#25 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 242
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ps. ADAM AX and KRK RP are not "high end" . "high end" are ADAM SX and KRK Expose
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23rd July 2012
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#26 | | Gear interested
Joined: Jul 2012 Location: Chandigarh
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I would suggest a pair of ADAM A7X and their sub. The A8x's aren't a7x with more low end.
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27th July 2012
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#27 | | Gear nut
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 105
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Lycoferas I would suggest a pair of ADAM A7X and their sub. The A8x's aren't a7x with more low end. | what are they than? what are they for?
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