Question about vocal recording...

[traumerei1838]

stedman pop filter 3 fingers from the mic

the better the mic, the larger the sweet spot

[vernier]

[soundgear]

I like have the singer sing while I listen through head phones and get the singer to start close to the mic then move away until the sound is most favourable.
Then YES I like to place the pop filter at that spot so they can't get any closer to the mic. This will change of coarse with different volumes most of all but different voices from the same singer. Louder softer singing screaming. Singing and screaming can be the same volume but there could be difference in where it sounds best. Always try mic positioning with different styles volumes textures voices, and of coarse different singers.

Some people dangle a thread to get notice of distance to singers. I tried didn't work well so I use the pop filter. But when its me singing I put the pop filter close to the mic and use my experience to where I sing . I like to control my own dynamics when I sing but do put a little comp on it to tame the peaks . Don't put To much comp on because the singer won't be aware of there own dynamic delivery . In music trial and error is always best for me

[Rolf Ebitsch]

Originally Posted by vernier

Thank you very much for this video.

Sounds incredible !!

50 years ago.... and the sound is much better than every second production nowadays.
Maybe something runs wrongly and goes into the wrong direction... computer, too much compression, to much EQ, too much tracks, loudness war.... ??????

Only my opinion...
R.

[kafka]

Good lord, I want Robby's guitar! But check out that amp hum.

Yeah, definitely watch that proximity effect. If the singer doesn't know how to work the microphone, it can turn into a muddy mess that comes and goes. And with a condenser, I agree, getting the singer off-axis is the only way to get rid of all the spit, throat gravel, and sibilance. What pop filter you use makes positioning of it all the difference in the world. Those cheap metal things set up phasey resonances with the mic grill that sound like s**t. If you can't get the singer off the mic, give them a cheap dynamic to slobber on, and then set up the condenser behind it, like what they did with our friend in the above video. :-)

[ofajen]

It varies. With the AT4050, I usually use figure-8 on vocals because it sounds best. For my vocals, I tend to work a foot away and no pop filter, but no absolutes. With SM81 (cardioid) I tend to work a little closer, with a pop filter (because Dorsey took the internal windscreens out to improve transients) though positioning varies widely depending on sound from above and aimed high to lower and aimed at my chest or right in the middle. With SM80 (omni) it may be super close with pop filter or much farther out and no filter.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,

Otto