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Got a control 24, now what?

Picked up a used control 24 today.
No cabling, or instructions.

All I see is a bunch of D sub connections, which I am not used to.

How do I get this bad boy hooked up in all it's glory to my 003r?
What cables do I need to buy to run the monitor section, talkback, and preamps 1-8?
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I'm most concerned about the monitoring section.
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if you plan to use it as a controller then use an ethernet to your PC/MAC to the c24 and Boom done.
If you want to use the c24 press then thats a whole costly different story.
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Yeah, thanks. I've def got the ethernet portion covered.

I'm just wanting to get the monitoring section set up first and foremost, and eventually talkback and the first 8 pres
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That's like the last reason guys buy that unit.. Most I know of use it as a controller only. The monitor, Pres really fell flat.
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Ok, well. I'd really like to use it for monitoring, will 2 d-sub to trs snakes cover me?
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Digidesign/Avid sold a cabling kit for the Control24. It was just a bunch of d-sub to trs cables. Avid Control|24 CKT (TRS Kit) | Sweetwater.com

I may still have the cable kit from my Control24 that I'd be willing to sell cheaply. PM me if you're interested.
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Have no idea. Have you posted in the digi forum or searched for a PDF manual?

if you can solder you can make the cables you need. If your only going to use the monitors then wouldn't take much.

Digi sells cables meant for that. They are very over priced but if you look at them then you can see what's needed.
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Perhaps download the manual?
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I have a lot of dsub Mogami Snakes for sell That will get you hooked up
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Yeah, thanks. I've def got the ethernet portion covered.

I'm just wanting to get the monitoring section set up first and foremost, and eventually talkback and the first 8 pres
Download the manual maybe? that's where I'd start.
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Yes you need a TRS to DB25 snake for the monitor section in. The monitor out is also DB25. You can get a DB25 to XLR or DB25 to TRS, whichever your monitors need. Of course, channels 1&2 are stereo L&R. If you choose, it can also do surround sound, given you have the CPTK. Make sure to use Line Outs 1&2 on the 003 instead of the monitor outs. The 2nd monitoring path is unnecessary, has to be un-muted every time the 003 is powered back on, and will cause extra noise you don't want.

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Manual is about a billion pages long, thinking one of you guys might have a quick answer --- no worries
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Yes you need a TRS to DB25 snake for the monitor section in. The monitor out is also DB25. You can get a DB25 to XLR or DB25 to TRS, whichever your monitors need. Of course, channels 1&2 are stereo L&R. If you choose, it can also do surround sound, given you have the CPTK. Make sure to use Line Outs 1&2 on the 003 instead of the monitor outs. The 2nd monitoring path is unnecessary, has to be un-muted every time the 003 is powered back on, and will cause extra noise you don't want.

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Just throw it out......lol! Looks like you'll need to build some cables bud!
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You REALLY need to read and comprehend the manual to set up your C24 correctly. Also, in the thread title you say its a Control24, but you need db25 cables. Is it a C24? The newer one? Or the big older slanted one? Because the older one uses both db25 cables and TRS. C24 uses Db25 with a few trs for listen back and alt monitors.
So which is it?

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Manual is about a billion pages long, thinking one of you guys might have a quick answer --- no worries
Ever hear the "teach a man to fish" proverb?

You'll get a lot further in music and recording generally if you understand the why, as well as the how. Being spoonfed answers because you can't be bothered to read the manual isn't really how to learn. Try and find the answers yourself...it's much more satisfying and you'll learn lots along the way.

Without wanting to sound a grumpy old man about things....it's for your own good!
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Ethernet from c 24 to computer and firewire from digi 003 to computer
go to your "peripherals" tab in PT and locate Ethernet settings and set accordingly( #2)
I strongly suggest to use outboard pres
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Sell it

Sell it mate,
its rubbish , a very expensive mouse and keyboard for Pro tools,
sell it and buy some nice analogue gear,
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We have a Control 24 and like it very much for the price. The pres are nothing special but it works fine as a controller and looks better than a Euphonix MC Mix. Our clients like it. And it DOES have DB25 connectors on the line outs, monitor ins, and a couple other connections. The mic ins are XLR and line ins are TRS.

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I like Control 24's...as a controller...I don't really see the point in running audio through it, except for the monitoring section (which granted, isn't great, but it works, and is convenient) talk back and external sources. I wouldn't really bust my hump to get the preamps up and running unless you need a bunch of cheap, usable, but not very good Preamps for drums or synths or something...
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Ever hear the "teach a man to fish" proverb?

You'll get a lot further in music and recording generally if you understand the why, as well as the how. Being spoonfed answers because you can't be bothered to read the manual isn't really how to learn. Try and find the answers yourself...it's much more satisfying and you'll learn lots along the way.

Without wanting to sound a grumpy old man about things....it's for your own good!
It's a good idea to have the manual saved on your hard drive. It's not difficult to find answers to questions since you can search the document using a keyword. It will be faster than asking here.


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It's a good idea to have the manual saved on your hard drive. It's not difficult to find answers to questions since you can search the document using a keyword. It will be faster than asking here.


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C24/Control 24

hiya
i would not trust the monitor section to trak or mix on,
the sound is a bit flat and very unrepresentative of the music your working on, i had one for a while, and was happy to work with it, then i started to relaise the pres ere rotten, the monitor section sounded bad , so mixs sounded different and i mean really different played on other systems,, the faders became a novelty and i was soon working on the mouse again,
really bro, you wasted your money on this turkey, offload it and get some nice audio gear

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Dear people telling me I "wasted my money",

Please shut up and stop being jerks. I never asked your opinion on my purchase. I know quite well what I'm doing.

Thank you.
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Dear people telling me I "wasted my money",

Please shut up and stop being jerks. I never asked your opinion on my purchase. I know quite well what I'm doing.

Thank you.
Sorry but, doesn't look like it! Quit the attitude a little bit and maybe people will help you...

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Dear people telling me I "wasted my money",

Please shut up and stop being jerks. I never asked your opinion on my purchase. I know quite well what I'm doing.

Thank you.

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Ahhh... ferget it.



















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Sorry but, doesn't look like it! Quit the attitude a little bit and maybe people will help you...

Dude, I had a great attitude until people came on here and started telling me what an idiot I was for making this purchase.

I still have a pretty great attitude, actually. My post was mostly in jest. Apparently didn't translate over the internet very well.

My apologies.
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I agree

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Dear people telling me I "wasted my money",

Please shut up and stop being jerks. I never asked your opinion on my purchase. I know quite well what I'm doing.

Thank you.
Actually buddy
I agree with you,, you made your choice, your figuring out how to connect it,
go have fun, sorry if i pissed you off
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