23rd July 2012
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#211 | | Gear addict
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hi.
This is my review of the Heritage 1073/500
Is in spanish, but you can watch some nice graphs and listen to the sound
Enjoy it Review del Heritage audio 1073/500 | Hispasonic
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23rd July 2012
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#212 | | Moderator
Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Sweden | Quote:
Originally Posted by pacorro | Very cool...!
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24th July 2012
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#213 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jul 2011 Location: europe
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Originally Posted by carloff Kick and snare through Heritage 8173 | cool!
which mics did you use?
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26th July 2012
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#214 | | Lives for gear
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beyer M201 and Heil PR 48 for snare and kick
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26th July 2012
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#215 | | Gear interested
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27th July 2012
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#216 | | Gear nut
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I am looking for a 1073 clone for voices and direct bass recording, and this HA 1073/500 is a serious candidate, however I am a little worried that there is no DI (if I understand well).
Which DI would you recommand to use for bass recording in order to get the most of this preamp without screwing everything ?
I have a simple active DI (Radial Pro 48), is it enough ?
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27th July 2012
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#217 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by tomat I am looking for a 1073 clone for voices and direct bass recording, and this HA 1073/500 is a serious candidate, however I am a little worried that there is no DI (if I understand well).
Which DI would you recommand to use for bass recording in order to get the most of this preamp without screwing everything ?
I have a simple passive DI (Radial Pro 48), is it enough ? | I'm using the Radial J48 and it sounds awesome...
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28th July 2012
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#218 | | Gear interested
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Originally Posted by tomat I am looking for a 1073 clone for voices and direct bass recording, and this HA 1073/500 is a serious candidate, however I am a little worried that there is no DI (if I understand well).
Which DI would you recommand to use for bass recording in order to get the most of this preamp without screwing everything ?
I have a simple active DI (Radial Pro 48), is it enough ? | Your Radial is great when then you enter in a Neve Line amp.
Also here we use Radial and Little Labs IBP DI. |
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29th July 2012
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#219 | | Gear nut
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Thanks guys !
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29th July 2012
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#220 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by RetroLover | Oy Vay!! Big Big Purchase. I think I'd be creaming too.
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29th July 2012
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#221 | | Gear interested
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Originally Posted by ray_subsonic Oy Vay!! Big Big Purchase. I think I'd be creaming too. | |
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2nd October 2012
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#222 | | Lives for gear
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Just wanted to revive this to say how awesome this unit is. I'm using a CV4-->Heritage 1073/500-->Retro Sta-Level-->Lynx Hilo...and it's the best sounding chain I've ever worked with. For vox, I dig out a little 1.6Khz and high pass at 50hz...maybe dial out a smidge at 12Khz and it's just freaking golden. With acoustic stuff, I'll record with no compression and eq to taste - unbelievable. It's absolutely the best mic pre I've worked with.
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2nd October 2012
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#223 | | Lives for gear
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If anyone around Boston has gotten one yet, I would love to A/B with my AML ez1073. Thanks!
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2nd October 2012
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#224 | | Gear nut
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Originally Posted by Johnkenn Just wanted to revive this to say how awesome this unit is. I'm using a CV4-->Heritage 1073/500-->Retro Sta-Level-->Lynx Hilo...and it's the best sounding chain I've ever worked with. For vox, I dig out a little 1.6Khz and high pass at 50hz...maybe dial out a smidge at 12Khz and it's just freaking golden. With acoustic stuff, I'll record with no compression and eq to taste - unbelievable. It's absolutely the best mic pre I've worked with. | I'm really proud to hear this. Thanks John!!!
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2nd October 2012
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#225 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Heritage Audio I'm really proud to hear this. Thanks John!!! | I have space for another one...and yes, I can be bought. |
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2nd October 2012
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#226 | | Lives for gear
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Have time to post a sample with that chain? I'm very curious about what you think of the Hilo compared to the Symphony. Plus I just like hearing you sing lol.
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3rd October 2012
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#227 | | Gear nut
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Originally Posted by Johnkenn I have space for another one...and yes, I can be bought.  | Nice try !!!
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3rd October 2012
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#228 | | Lives for gear
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i've skimmed through this thread and all i've seen are people comparing the heritage 1073's to other clones. Not sure if i get the point of this. What i would like to know is how they compare to the original 1073? I get that vintage 1073's can sound different to each other but they have a thing that sounds "vintage" for lack of a better word. Of the clones I've used and tried all sounded good until you put them next to the real deal. I haven't heard any that i would take over an original...
While we are at it i think that 1073's are great and all that but by no means the end all when it comes to pres. It is a "sound" for sure but not necessarily better than another "sound"...just different. I think it's more about the combination of source, mic, pre and compressor that makes the difference than the pre alone. There are sounds that i can get out of a TG2 or to be controversial a 737 that you can't get out of a 1073 and vice versa. Doesn't make one better than the other...again just different.
i guess i am venting a bit because i see so many 1073 threads out there worshiping them as the end all be all when they are not...just another tool in the tool box (albeit a great one)...it is still just a coloring tool.
ej
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4th October 2012
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#229 | | Lives for gear
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Can a clone sound better than the original?
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4th October 2012
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#230 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jul 2006 Location: So Cal
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Originally Posted by ejsongs I haven't heard any that i would take over an original... | Quote:
Originally Posted by miscend Can a clone sound better than the original? | Ask dandeurloo about the AML. He did an album in a studio filled with outboard racked 1073's and a Neve console full of 1073's. I won't quote him, but it was favorable to the AML's.
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4th October 2012
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#231 | | Lives for gear
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I thought I had written this, but maybe I haven't. This unit - to me - sounds like the vintage units that I've used. It's the balance across the frequency spectrum that distinguishes it. A lot of the clones and reissues suffer from what I call "laser beam" upper mids...they can be pronounced and unpleasant. I don't hear that at all with these units. Smooth but detailed, thick but not boomy.
There is a reason 1073's are so sought after - because they sound incredible. No one is claiming its the only sound on the island, but if there was only one I could have, a vintage Neve would probably be one of the first choices. That being said, considering the price of a vintage Neve, I would just take two of these. Quote:
Originally Posted by ejsongs i've skimmed through this thread and all i've seen are people comparing the heritage 1073's to other clones. Not sure if i get the point of this. What i would like to know is how they compare to the original 1073? I get that vintage 1073's can sound different to each other but they have a thing that sounds "vintage" for lack of a better word. Of the clones I've used and tried all sounded good until you put them next to the real deal. I haven't heard any that i would take over an original...
While we are at it i think that 1073's are great and all that but by no means the end all when it comes to pres. It is a "sound" for sure but not necessarily better than another "sound"...just different. I think it's more about the combination of source, mic, pre and compressor that makes the difference than the pre alone. There are sounds that i can get out of a TG2 or to be controversial a 737 that you can't get out of a 1073 and vice versa. Doesn't make one better than the other...again just different.
i guess i am venting a bit because i see so many 1073 threads out there worshiping them as the end all be all when they are not...just another tool in the tool box (albeit a great one)...it is still just a coloring tool.
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4th October 2012
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#232 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by cowboycoalminer Have time to post a sample with that chain? I'm very curious about what you think of the Hilo compared to the Symphony. Plus I just like hearing you sing lol. | Here's a clip of a tune I recorded here at home...AG was through a Miktek C5 and vox through a CV4-->Heritage 1073/500-->Sta-Level--Hilo. This was just a quick demo, so I didn't spend much time perfecting...but I believe all I did was take out a little 1khz with a software eq. Steel was through a Avid 11R (not me playing) John Kennedy - ReverbNation |
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4th October 2012
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#233 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by Johnkenn Here's a clip of a tune I recorded here at home...AG was through a Miktek C5 and vox through a CV4-->Heritage 1073/500-->Sta-Level--Hilo. This was just a quick demo, so I didn't spend much time perfecting...but I believe all I did was take out a little 1khz with a software eq. Steel was through a Avid 11R (not me playing) John Kennedy - ReverbNation | Sounds great John - as always.  Very smooth. One of these days I'm going to get you to sing on something.... 
PS - Although I know the Heritage is awesome, I gotta say : 90% voice - 10% mic/pre. Props to you.
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4th October 2012
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#234 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2006 Location: Minneapolis | Quote:
Originally Posted by drBill Ask dandeurloo about the AML. He did an album in a studio filled with outboard racked 1073's and a Neve console full of 1073's. I won't quote him, but it was favorable to the AML's. | Yes, the AML is very nice. We compared it to a few channels in the console and a pair that had been racked up. The AML's where right in there. In fact the sounded better then the pair that was racked and a few of the channels in the desk. But a few of the channels on the desk had a slight bit of more magic. Hard to say what it is but the AML's are very nice.
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5th October 2012
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#235 | | Lives for gear
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My Heritage 500/1073 arrived this week. I finally got a couple hours with it, and I am super impressed.
The buzz words ring true with this one. "Big" "Warm" "Sounds like a record." However, it is detailed. It's not muddy, muffled, or veiled. It's clear and detailed, yet warm with that unmistakable Neve 1073 grit. The low end is full, but not hyped or inflated.
I'm really looking forward to recording with it this weekend. If I come up with anything I can share, I'll post.
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11th October 2012
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#236 | | Gear nut
Joined: Jan 2012
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Originally Posted by ProducerBoy My Heritage 500/1073 arrived this week. I finally got a couple hours with it, and I am super impressed.
The buzz words ring true with this one. "Big" "Warm" "Sounds like a record." However, it is detailed. It's not muddy, muffled, or veiled. It's clear and detailed, yet warm with that unmistakable Neve 1073 grit. The low end is full, but not hyped or inflated.
I'm really looking forward to recording with it this weekend. If I come up with anything I can share, I'll post. | This is a call to all Heritage Audio
users. We'd love to hear your samples!!! Please contact us!
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12th October 2012
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#237 | | Gear addict
Joined: Mar 2011 Location: Rectum of a dead skunk
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Originally Posted by Johnkenn Just got my new module from Alto - works great! I sent mine Monday, emailed Jon and he sent one right out...fantastic. They've earned a customer. | Weve been in business since 1976 and for a very long time we ONLY buy from Alto. We are in California and they are in new York... But nobody- literally NOBODY has better service or prices.
Whenever we buy anything, we just order it from Alto. Don't even ask for a price. Just ship it and bill us. Not once have we ever been let down.
And its not like theres no place to buy from in LA... But theres no place like Alto!
And I do think your chain sounds great! Though I still REALLY liked the Helios you used prior too.
Im most interested to see if you eventually change your mind again...
But I always enjoy your clips and so far its this and the Helios I like best!
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12th October 2012
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#238 | | Lives for gear
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I don't ever see me getting rid of the HA. I could see adding a Helios again, but I do think I like this pre more on just about every source...been a while since I had them side by side, though.
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12th October 2012
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#239 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Johnkenn I don't ever see me getting rid of the HA. I could see adding a Helios again, but I do think I like this pre more on just about every source...been a while since I had them side by side, though. | Helios is the only other pre on my radar, and the Stones are to blame for that. Really hoping for that no eq version that was being talked about.
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12th October 2012
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#240 | | Lives for gear
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I'm considering buying 2 1073. I'm pretty new in this world, I'm mixing ITB so far, tell me if I'm wrong :
I could use them as EQ when mixing and
at the final stage I could use them as pre amp after a summing passive mixer
Do the 1073 have enough gain for it?
thanks,
J.
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