UM251c blackspade - anyone tried it??

[Johnkenn]

I'd really like to hear that Mike.

[vincentvangogo]

I'd also like to hear that mic.

[RKrizman]

Originally Posted by Mike Tholen

I have been using the EAB and V76s with them about 90% of the time but I know this is not a reality for most people so that makes me think I should probably make these sample with something more attainable.

FTR I have the UM25 and the UM17R, I have not heard nor used the UM25C yet.

I say just make it sound as good as you can. If in doubt, go with a Neve style, as that's something we can all reference.

Thanks in advance,

-R

[RKrizman]

Also, as per another thread, use a couple of different picks.

-R

[cowboycoalminer]

Originally Posted by RKrizman

I wish I had been at the session, because just listening to these files does not give me quite the impression you're describing. Unfortunately it's the nature of the beast. For me, in all the clips, there's something missing in the guitar and male vocal recordings. None of the Blackspades would have been my go-to for those tracks, but then again I'm not hearing them live. However I appreciate the fact that you're trying to be repeatable and objective, and that is no small accomplishment. But when the numbers 47 and 251 are thrown around you need to bring something magic or else it's just another wannabe.

If you really think these mics are special I think you should give them a deeper workout and show what kind of beauty they're really capable of, because the pedigree is definitely there.

-R

I've got a UM 17r coming about Wed. Stay tuned and I'll post some samples up. Believe me, I will defiantly give that brute a workout.

[warhead]

Hey Mike, I would love to hear it too!

Our clips are never the whole story, just a bit of context due to repeatability. With so much stuff on the market, it helps.

I wish everybody could be there too for a better picture. I know I like these mics a LOT.

[warhead]

Originally Posted by cowboycoalminer

I've got a UM 17r coming about Wed. Stay tuned and I'll post some samples up. Believe me, I will defiantly give that brute a workout.

I know that you will...and thanks again for letting us take care of you.

[cowboycoalminer]

Originally Posted by warhead

I know that you will...and thanks again for letting us take care of you.

Thank you

[Cathedral Guitar]

Here are some raw stereo classical clips comparing the UM17R (left) and the UM25C (right) both in Omni. It is in a medium-size church, going through Millennia HV3 / Rosetta 800:

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5

Here is another sample comparing the UM25 (left) with the UM25C (right):

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[Tim Campbell]

Great clips.
On the last clip the UM25 seems a little louder.

[Mike Tholen]

Originally Posted by Cathedral Guitar

Here are some raw stereo classical clips...

They sound very nice indeed.
Were these normalized?

[Cathedral Guitar]

No, these are just the unprocessed files. The mics are set up about 20' apart as soloist spots, (i.e., not the mains for these clips -- we used pairs of CM7GT, CMT30/M934C, and a C34). So you may want to adjust levels for proper A/B comparison.

[Mike Tholen]

Wow! Really?
These are very hot recording levels. Are you referencing a VU meter?

[Cathedral Guitar]

They are set properly for the soloist sections, which are much quieter. Of course, the full orchestra + choir together generate a lot more sound.

[Mike Tholen]

These sound nice but I would like to hear some clips without the mic pre being pushed so hard.

[cowboycoalminer]

Here's a mix with the UM 17r used on vox only. I used an 1176 going in and Pultec and LA2A coming out. Very little of anything on it really. It didn't need much, however for my baritone, I found I had to use more HP than on other mics. Rolled of about 4 on the top as well around 16k. There's some serious mojo in this thing though.

[Plush]

DIG your new track, Cowboy!

STrong MOve!

[Denny C]

Cowboy, very cool!

[zvenx]

Originally Posted by Denny C

Cowboy, very cool!

+1

rsp

[Johnkenn]

Vocals sound great...Although not a big fan of this particular Eric Church song...If I hear about tans, trucks, flip flops, country roads, grandpas, smell of jasmine, whiskey, rain, six packs, hank jr, or dirt roads one more time, I'm gonna puke. Sorry.

[cowboycoalminer]

Originally Posted by Johnkenn

Vocals sound great...Although not a big fan of this particular Eric Church song...If I hear about tans, trucks, flip flops, country roads, grandpas, smell of jasmine, whiskey, rain, six packs, hank jr, or dirt roads one more time, I'm gonna puke. Sorry.

Your livin in the wrong town then, Brother.

But I know what you mean. Labels get on a kick that sells and we have to write toward it. It's the business and it sucks but that's the way it is guess.

[Johnkenn]

I'll be damned...I ain't doing it...

[slaphappy]

Originally Posted by cowboycoalminer

Your livin in the wrong town then, Brother.

But I know what you mean. Labels get on a kick that sells and we have to right toward it. It's the business and it sucks but that's the way it is guess.

Ahhh...but then it all gets outdone by something outside the box- happens every year.

[Mike Tholen]

Vocals are sonically great...super pro.

[drkoosh]

Beautiful vocal, was looking for some vocal clips of the 25c as there isn't much about the mic around the place. Thanks so much for posting

Anyone compared this to an AR-51?

[Mike Tholen]

Here is a vocal sample of the UM25C, V76s-mild compression using 1176, no EQ.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/88663921/CrashVoxUM25C.wav

[RKrizman]

Very nice!

-R

[AB3]

I like it a lot. Makes me interested in trying that mic out.

Originally Posted by Mike Tholen

Here is a vocal sample of the UM25C, V76s-mild compression using 1176, no EQ.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/88663921/CrashVoxUM25C.wav

[Leonardo_007]

Oliver Archut does fantastic work, this shouldn't be a secret by now

[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by Mike Tholen

Here is a vocal sample of the UM25C, V76s-mild compression using 1176, no EQ.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/88663921/CrashVoxUM25C.wav

Sounds awesome Mike! I will assume that Oliver has blessed that V76s you got patched in :P

Originally Posted by Leonardo_007

Oliver Archut does fantastic work, this shouldn't be a secret by now

The Secret is out 007!!

Bought myself a UM25c recently, and absolutely love it.