25th May 2006
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#1 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2005 Location: portugal
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Thread Starter | pros and cons of a studio with reharsal rooms
Hi,
I just found a beutyfull warehouse where I'll be building my studio.
the thing is, it's very big, much bigger than what I'll be using for the studio.
So I've been thinking of ways to use the space to make some extra money.
Reharsal rooms seems like an obvious solution (they seem to be doing this a lot in the UK), but I'm not sure if it's worth it, considering the extra investment and staff I would need.
also I'm concerned about possible pitfalls that I haven't thought of.
Does anyone here have any experience with this situation,
any suggestions would be apreciated,
cheers
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26th May 2006
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#2 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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BUMPAGE!
im thinking about this too at the moment, very seriously.
i dont have my own studio space as such yet and am hoping to kill several birds with one stone (very simplified version):
-get my own studio space (where i will base my mobile rig)
-get my band our own rehearsal room
-rent out 6 or 7 other sound isolated rooms to bands on a 3 month basis; leases, deposits, keys, etc.
these rented rooms will be exclusively for each band, ie you move your gear in, set it up how you like it and lock it up when you leave. 24 hour access. good security systems for the building. be able to record from any of the rooms. community vibe between the resident artists. a place a serious, hard working band can call home. no bullshit. i'm doing the numbers on it right now. big investment but could work out nicely in the long run.
regarding the sound isolation im looking at ordering prefab booths, but big ones!
depending on the cost it might just about be doable. but boy are some of the manufacturers expensivo.
so, again, any advice greatly appreciated!
regards,
richie.
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26th May 2006
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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26th May 2006
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#4 | | Lives for gear
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Rehearsal space is an excellent concept, as far as I am concerned. I think several of the local studios keep afloat by renting their rooms for rehearsal. As for extra staff, dpending on your model, you might only need one.
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26th May 2006
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#5 | | Lives for gear
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quite!
im putting together a business plan right now for a whole new faciclity in Dublin, Ireland.
8 x acosutically treated and sound isolated (as far as possible) rehearsal rooms of 250 SqF each including vocal PA.
1 for my band, 6 for hire on a 3 month basis for €800 per month. totally private and secure. 24/7 access and reduced recording fees for resident artists.
roome 7 for hire on a maximum 1 month basis, for use as a "going on tour need to rehearse in a hurry" room or for visitng bands to record in.
recording possible from any of the rooms, the rig all in rolling racks and available for location work.
top quality gear throughout; mics, pres and outboard geared towards tracking great rock and roll.
lord give me strenght!
it can be done, and im the dude to do it.
i hope!
regards,
richie.
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26th May 2006
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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I have 20 rehearsal rooms here....have had to go backwards with some extra construction, but it is all working itself out now....So my advice would be to do it right from the get go or be prepared to spend extra money later fixing it....I should know.
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26th May 2006
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#8 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2006 Location: Ipswich, UK
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Originally Posted by RichT Works for us!  | Its hard to compete with rehearsal free of charge. Or at very subsidised rates.
Check under the bed there are damn commie pinkos in rehearsal facilities these days. See. http://www.amplifiersuffolk.co.uk/li...478cae90d31ccd
So far my local authority has spent £511042.00 providing free rehearsal space and equipment. They do demo recording too.
Regards.•:*¨¨*:•. ¸¸.•´¯`•.Mark Fairfax-Harwood, Engineer Springvale Studios
PS Still way down south by the solent delta you should be safe for a while.
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27th May 2006
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#9 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Aug 2004 Location: Silverlake/L.A.
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Originally Posted by pigpen I have 20 rehearsal rooms here....have had to go backwards with some extra construction, but it is all working itself out now....So my advice would be to do it right from the get go or be prepared to spend extra money later fixing it....I should know. |
i second that advice. the controlroom of my studio shares one common cinderblock wall with one rehearsal space of a 6 unit complex and when they practice (only in the evenings thankfully) it's too distracting to work. i wish the original owner had spent the extra dough and done things correctly -- now i have to. my last place i had built from the ground up using 1/8" vinyl barrier, staggered studs, soundboard, 2 layers of 3/8" sheetrock, and 1 layer of 1/4" sheetrock for isolation -- expensive, but well worth it. Manowar could be playing in the tracking room and once step outside all you'd get a faint hum that a conversation between two 80 year-old grannies could easily drowned out.
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27th May 2006
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#10 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Sep 2005 Location: Northern California
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If your business plan includes having someone else setup,
cleanup, book and control the rehearsal room(s) and the gear in it, go for it.
(With correct construction of course).
For me it became too much of a distraction.
Just my opinion.
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14th August 2006
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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Stumbled across this while searching...
I am running a small tracking/mixing place in a larger rehearsal complex. The guy who runs the rehearsal side of things is constantly bitching about what a PITA the rooms are to run.
If you are going to do it:
Purpose build for isolation (real isolation).
Come up with a good security system, keycards are good with video surveilance. Stuff will get stolen, and you don't want to have to employ someone to supervise bands constantly.
Try and rent rooms monthly or weeky. With deposits. That hourly rate stuff attracts mayhem and misery in our experience.
Either cheap speakers/mic's/stands in the rooms, or decent rigs and big deposits or credit card number taken. No in between. What people don't steal, they f*ck up.
Budget for waste disposal and cleaning properly. Musicians create more mess per hour than any other members of society. I should know I am one.
There can be advantages to being involved in a vibrant musical scene with good bands coming and going all the time. But you can just as easily become involved with your local rehearsal complex and avoid all the bullsh*t.
If I was doing it, which I'm not, I would build three or four top-notch rooms with 18" stage monitors nice backline, and a multi split to the recording studio in every room.
I would then charge a months rent in advance plus an exorbitant deposit.
Locate it beside a bar/music venue.
Trying to run 12 rooms filled with young bands is more headache for less gain.
Nathan
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by PapillonIrl Stumbled across this while searching...
I am running a small tracking/mixing place in a larger rehearsal complex. The guy who runs the rehearsal side of things is constantly bitching about what a PITA the rooms are to run.
If you are going to do it:
Purpose build for isolation (real isolation).
Come up with a good security system, keycards are good with video surveilance. Stuff will get stolen, and you don't want to have to employ someone to supervise bands constantly.
Try and rent rooms monthly or weeky. With deposits. That hourly rate stuff attracts mayhem and misery in our experience.
Either cheap speakers/mic's/stands in the rooms, or decent rigs and big deposits or credit card number taken. No in between. What people don't steal, they f*ck up.
Budget for waste disposal and cleaning properly. Musicians create more mess per hour than any other members of society. I should know I am one.
There can be advantages to being involved in a vibrant musical scene with good bands coming and going all the time. But you can just as easily become involved with your local rehearsal complex and avoid all the bullsh*t.
If I was doing it, which I'm not, I would build three or four top-notch rooms with 18" stage monitors nice backline, and a multi split to the recording studio in every room.
I would then charge a months rent in advance plus an exorbitant deposit.
Locate it beside a bar/music venue.
Trying to run 12 rooms filled with young bands is more headache for less gain.
Nathan | Amen brother! |
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