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AES/EBU - ADAT conversion?

What's a way to convert 8 channels of AES/EBU to ADAT besides buying a whole ADDA converter?

I don't need ADDA. Just ADAT to AES/EBU in and out.
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RME ADI-8 DD. ADAT, AES, TDIF format conversion- also has sample rate conversion and works up to 96K via SMUX.

Also, I've seen a pretty good number of used Otari UFCs on the market. That is 24 channels of format conversion from and to anything.

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Re: AES/EBU - ADAT conversion?

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What's a way to convert 8 channels of AES/EBU to ADAT besides buying a whole ADDA converter?

I don't need ADDA. Just ADAT to AES/EBU in and out.
The Z Systems 8.8aAES. $1500 Retail. This is a detangler (digital patch bay, 8in 8out) that does SRC from Lightpipe to AES, or the other way around. No errors, no screw ups. No A to D or D to A. Also a version that can do Lightpipe to S/PDIF (Z 8.8a, same price).
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Re: Re: AES/EBU - ADAT conversion?

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The Z Systems 8.8aAES. $1500 Retail. This is a detangler (digital patch bay, 8in 8out) that does SRC from Lightpipe to AES, or the other way around. No errors, no screw ups. No A to D or D to A. Also a version that can do Lightpipe to S/PDIF (Z 8.8a, same price).
Recommendation seconded.

Plus, you won't believe how many daily uses you'll find for the Z-Systems box besides this basic format conversion..

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Faeflora,

we at MUTEC are manufacturing a converter box which is called FORMAT CHANGER multichannel aa. You can have a look at their specs at:

www.mutec-net.de/content.php?lng=e&pg=fcmaa

This converter could meet your requirements to convert from AES/EBU or S/PDIF to ADAT lightpipe (or vice versa). Additionally, sampling rate conversion can be added on all channels referenced to external word/super clock or AES/EBU and ADAT. Also bidirectional transfers between both formats are possible. If you need further details, please let me know.

Hope this email will not violate the regimentations of this forum.

Regards, Christian.
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I'm a heartbeat away from getting the RME box....i really don't want to but i must.....digital sucks, don't it?
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Faeflora,

we at MUTEC are manufacturing a converter box which is called FORMAT CHANGER multichannel aa. You can have a look at their specs at:

www.mutec-net.de/content.php?lng=e&pg=fcmaa

This converter could meet your requirements to convert from AES/EBU or S/PDIF to ADAT lightpipe (or vice versa). Additionally, sampling rate conversion can be added on all channels referenced to external word/super clock or AES/EBU and ADAT. Also bidirectional transfers between both formats are possible. If you need further details, please let me know.

Hope this email will not violate the regimentations of this forum.

Regards, Christian.
Christian, nice line, not expensive at least !

thanx for the info

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Malice,

yes the box is really not expensive (from our point of view :-). If I compare right, you will get the functionality of two boxes which you have introduced before, plus sampling rate conversion on all 8 channels as a standard in one box. So, it is maybe a good alternative for some applications.

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Hi Chris, which unit is this one? I saw it in a online store and could not match it to a product on the Mutec website.

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I believe Graham-Patten makes a few... XLR/BNC with and without SRC
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Hi Faeflora,

yes, this is a little bit difficult because we do have two different versions which are looking equally. Your photo is so small that I can not see which version it is.

The FORMAT CHANGER multichannel aa describes the ADAT-AES/EBU version, the FORMAT CHANGER multichannel ta describes the TDIF-AES/EBU version. Both consists of the same housing, except the print on the front panel is different (and also the connections on the rear side). If you want to order it is important that you define which functionality you really need and you will get the right product.

Hope this helps.

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I realize this is a very old thread, but the information here is still useful.

Since this thread started, Aphex has come out with their Model 144 converter, which looks promising.

Too bad the Alesis AI-4 has been discontinued.

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RME ADI-8 DD. ADAT, AES, TDIF format conversion- also has sample rate conversion and works up to 96K via SMUX.

Also, I've seen a pretty good number of used Otari UFCs on the market. That is 24 channels of format conversion from and to anything.

--Ben

The ADI8-DD will not SRC ADAT. In order to do this, you will need two of them or an ADI-192. Other than that, they are pretty exceptional boxes.
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Don´t forget there is an RME ADI 4-DD as well. Does the job, less price.

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...Does the job, ...
Yes, but without sampling rate conversion! I am not sure if this is needed for your applications?

I just have recognized that the information in this thread posted from my side is very old. So, I am glad to inform all of you that we will release a follow-up product of the above mentioned one, which is called MC-4.

The MC-4 will be available in first quarter of 2009. Maybe it is an alternative for you.
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do these kinds of units introduce latency?

i ask because i have a PT HD2 system, using 2 x Lynx Aurora (16 +8) for AD/DA, but i also have an RME ADI-8 DS which i could utilize for extra AD/DA by incorporating such a format changer.

however, if there was extra latency on these 8 channels of AD/DA it wouldn't be worth my while.
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Yes, but without sampling rate conversion! I am not sure if this is needed for your applications?

I just have recognized that the information in this thread posted from my side is very old. So, I am glad to inform all of you that we will release a follow-up product of the above mentioned one, which is called MC-4.

The MC-4 will be available in first quarter of 2009. Maybe it is an alternative for you.
Where can US buyers find it and how much$$$?

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i use an old Merging DUA2 interface, works like a charm and you can find them for a lot less than the modern rme stuff...
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Yes, but without sampling rate conversion! I am not sure if this is needed for your applications?

I just have recognized that the information in this thread posted from my side is very old. So, I am glad to inform all of you that we will release a follow-up product of the above mentioned one, which is called MC-4.

The MC-4 will be available in first quarter of 2009. Maybe it is an alternative for you.
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Where can US buyers find it and how much$$$?

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It's been hard trying to get some US info on this product. It seems perfect!

Right now I am using a Mackie d8b as a format converter. I have held on to it for quite some time but it will soon be going bye-bye after I get 4 more pres.

Anything else out there besides the:

RME ADI-4 DD
Aphex 144

Seems like there are some limitations to the Aphex 144 but I work at 24bit/48khz and clock everything via wordclock coming from a Rosetta 800.

I Really like the features of the Mutec Unit.


ADAT™-AES3-S/PDIF Digital Audio Format & Sampling
Rate Converter

The MC-4 is a high performance digital multichannel audio format and sampling rate converter for ADAT™, AES3 and S/P-DIF.

The MC-4 converts ADAT™, AES3 and S/P-DIF digital multichannel audio signals whereas uni- and bidirectional conversion modes are available. All digital audio signals can be processed up to 192.0kHz including SMUX2 and SMUX4 support for ADAT™conversions with higher clock rates than 48.0kHz. Based on latest FPGA designs, the MC-4 achieves levels of performance regarding its signal quality, unique flexibility and clocking features, which are outstanding in today’s industry!

FEATURES:
• ADAT™, AES/EBU and S/P-DIF interfaces working in one box.
• Format and sampling rate conversions up to 192.0kHz.
• SMUX2 and SMUX4 support for ADAT™conversions.
• Signal improvement through audiophil-optimized PLL synthesizers.
• Extremely flexible synchronization options.
• Separate AES11 reference clock input for e.g. broadcast use.
• Converts standalone and bidirectionally with different sampling rates: X-SRC.
• 16 channel sampling rate conversion engine (SRC) for bidirectional conversions.
• Continuous signal supply in absence of the reference audio or clock signal.
• Runs standalone in all SRC operation modes without needing an external
master clock reference.
• AES11, Grade 1, internal reference clock (0.5ppm).
• Word Clock output useable as master clock reference.
• Easy configurable.
• User settings will be stored in FLASH memory after switching-off.
• Rack space saving ½ 19” case allowing for mounting two devices side by side
in one rack unit.
• Built-in international power supply.

Me wants!thumbsup
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+1 on the RME ADI-4DD and the ADI-8DD. Flawless in every application.
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Here's their email response. Looks like they are in stock as well.

Dear Ron,

many thanks for your inquiry!

Please contact in the United States our new distribution partner Sonic Distribution USA LLC. Here are the contact details:

Sonic Distribution USA LLC
Phone 001-617-623-5581
Fax 001-617-623-5857
Email info@SonicUS.net
Web www.SonicUS.net

You can talk to Mr. Robert Reardon.

If you have further questions, please feel free to contact Robert or me directly.

Best regards, Chris.
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