Originally Posted by John Willett
use real valves (vacuum tubes) in the M149 and 147 - the 67 is just an alternative approach that some people like - if you don't like there is always the 149 and 147.
I don't actually see Gefell as "competitors".
Gefell make some superb mics that are different and complimentary to the ones made by Neumann Berlin.
I don't really think any go competitively "head to head" - if you want a Neumann you will buy a Neumann, if you want a Gefell ("original Neumann" according to many) you will get a Gefell.
And if you want a Neumann KM84 instead of a 184, you will get a Gefell M300
There is room for all and I see the two ranges as complimentary, really.
..we are speaking about the tlm67.. and honestly (personal opinion here) I think that is a real shame what they're doing with some of their products..
Saying that is an "alternative" approach is too easy.. Sorry about that.. But that is simply trying to cheat with marketing and being CHEAP.. You want "dirtiness" in a mic? Design it the right way, with a circuit that will reach that goal.. with real tubes and xformers, not emulations.. The results speaks for themselves..
The 149 is not bad, actually could be a nice mic on some sources, but hey, we are in 2012 and for that price you'll find some helluva mics out there.. Brauner, Josephson, Gefell, Violet Design... Etc,etc.. for that money or less they offer outstanting products.. Possibly more "bang for the buck" at any given price range.. Also Beesneez, at least he uses real tubes and xformers when he wants to add "colour" or distortion..
Why I prefer these to the current Neumann? They don't try to cheat with a glorious past..
That said I think that there are few current Neumann mics that should be considered.. Like the km100 (140) series, tlm170, M149 are nice mics.. For some sources might be the right mics..
I know that Neumann has some tube mics (even if I think that in the 147 is used as an output buffer and not in the amplifier stage?..correct me if I'm wrong)..
Gefell IS actually Neumann, because it became Gefell after being Neumann, but IS a Neumann (Harman Kardon) competitor today. The heritage and know how is the same (just because they WERE Neumann), they just developed differently..
I actually own a pair of M300 and they're stunning!