Quick Pro Tools Question about Region Selection

[danpremo]

I'm having a moment... I can't remember how to select all the regions in a track WITHOUT selecting the empty space between the regions that I cut out. Command+A selects everything in the track (regions AND spaces)... I don't need the spaces. Ultimately I need to select the regions, then move that selection to a track above so I can separate that big region into the same multiple regions as the original track. I'm going crazy...it would take hours to do each one individually... select, move selection, separate... repeat... ugh.

[crying1986]

I'm not sure i'm following you but maybe you need shuffle mode???

[studiostuff]

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying... But you're having a moment, so I'm sympathetic.

Another way to do this which was alluded to in the post above is to be in the SHUFFLE Edit Mode.

Open the region list on the right side of the edit window... Then drag the name of each region that appears there to a NEW TRACK using the shuffle mode.

What will happen is that you will have a new track, with the regions you chose, that have no space between them.

Enjoy!!

[.:On The Rock:.]

Wait, after trying to decipher what you asked, I think you're trying to retain the same region information (start time, length, end time), but not copy blank space onto a region in the track you are copying to. I don't have Pro Tools opened but I've though of two possibilities:

- Can you cmnd+click each region to be copied, or will that also select the blank space inbetween?

- Try putting what you're trying to copy into the playlist of the track you're copying to, then select the regions you want to bump up to the track to be copied to.

[Smithcok]

Object grabber tool

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by Smithcok

Object grabber tool

+1. Not sure how "shuffle mode" relates to the OP....he says nothing about how he wants to move said regions!

[danpremo]

Sorry for the lack of clarity.

I have about 500 random length regions spaced out on what we'll refer to as "track 1". (They are snare hits, cropped).

"Track 2" is one long region (bottom snare, same hits) but isn't chopped up at all.

I need to separate all the snare (bottom) hits in Track 2 so they match perfectly with the hits in track 1. I figured the best way to do that would be select a region in track 1, use my quick key to move the SELECTION (not the actual region) to track 2, and then separate. The result will yield the exact region start/end time for that snare hit, on tracks 1 and 2, but with different "content" in the region.

I was wondering how I could do this without having to select each one singly, and do it as a group instead to save time.

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by danpremo

Sorry for the lack of clarity.

I have about 500 random length regions spaced out on what we'll refer to as "track 1". (They are snare hits, cropped).

"Track 2" is one long region (bottom snare, same hits) but isn't chopped up at all.

I need to separate all the snare (bottom) hits in Track 2 so they match perfectly with the hits in track 1. I figured the best way to do that would be select a region in track 1, use my quick key to move the SELECTION (not the actual region) to track 2, and then separate. The result will yield the exact region start/end time for that snare hit, on tracks 1 and 2, but with different "content" in the region.

I was wondering how I could do this without having to select each one singly, and do it as a group instead to save time.

The quickest way I can think of is to take OFF tab to transient, group the 2 snares, then tab along and separate. Tabbing will go to each region division, separating will separate both snares (obviously one already has a separation there so no effect, your bottom snare will separate at the same time).

Does that make sense? I don't think there's a way to "copy" separations to the other track in one fell swoop - I'm trying to think if there's a way using Audio suite and not make continuous regions, but I don't think it would work like that, even if grouped.

[danpremo]

Originally Posted by psycho_monkey

The quickest way I can think of is to take OFF tab to transient, group the 2 snares, then tab along and separate. Tabbing will go to each region division, separating will separate both snares (obviously one already has a separation there so no effect, your bottom snare will separate at the same time).

Does that make sense? I don't think there's a way to "copy" separations to the other track in one fell swoop - I'm trying to think if there's a way using Audio suite and not make continuous regions, but I don't think it would work like that, even if grouped.

Thanks for the help. I was just hoping there would be a more time-efficient way to do it. Oh well... Thank you!

[teo]

+1 on what psycho said.
To do a cleaner job, I would:
tab to region start (grouping tracks as psycho explained)
hit A to trim region
tab to region end
hit B to separate
rinse and repeat

TAB A TAB B TAB A TAB B

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[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by teo

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[AASteveo]

Just use strip silence.

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by AASteveo

Just use strip silence.

Not the same thing...or same result.

[Pgraf88]

You can use beat detective to "transfer" cuts to a different tracks(s)

[teo]

Interesting...how?

[LPP]

You're trying to "match cut". My question is, is the snare bottom track in sync with your snare top track (pardon if this has been covered already) or did you cut and shift the snare top?

There is a fail safe technique for match cutting, but it is labor-intensive if you need to match sync, not just region separations.

[LPP]

I retread the OP. Okay so you're just trying to match a track's regions which are already in sync. Teo nailed it with the tabbing advice, but you may be able to have beat detective do your separations for you as suggested. The trouble is, I'm not sure beat detective can identify region starts and ends.

[stoplaughing]

Strip silence + object grabber

[LPP]

Could you with the object grabber select all then use P and semicolon to move the multiple selections to the desired track and separate? You'd still need to clean up the orphaned clips.

[stoplaughing]

Originally Posted by LPP

Could you with the object grabber select all then use P and semicolon to move the multiple selections to the desired track and separate? You'd still need to clean up the orphaned clips.

You would want to use the object grabber to grab the 'blank' space (what has been edited out of track 1) and pull it all down to your second track, then delete it. This will keep your edits from your first track preserved in the second track... no ?

[LPP]

Originally Posted by stoplaughing

You would want to use the object grabber to grab the 'blank' space (what has been edited out of track 1) and pull it all down to your second track, then delete it. This will keep your edits from your first track preserved in the second track... no ?

Trim to selection might be the inverse of your suggestion.

[stoplaughing]

Originally Posted by LPP

Trim to selection might be the inverse of your suggestion.

I see what you're saying. That will totally work. But... I just tried using the object grabber and moving the selection, not the region up (which I think is what you are proposing) and it wont work. So with apple+T you end up having to do like 500 quick key combos moving up trimming etc...

[LPP]

Bummer. I was worried that wouldn't work.

[aoki saburo]

Here's a mildly convoluted workaround...

Duplicate the destination (unedited) track

Use the object grabber tool to select all the regions in the source track. Then, option drag all the regions into the duplicated destination track. Hit delete, which will give you the blank spaces where the regions on the source track were.

Use the option grabber to select all the regions (which are the inverse of the intended effect) and option drag them onto the original destination track.

Hit delete, now you've got the same region spacing on the destination as on the original.

cheers

[teo]

I think we have a winner...don't have PT at home to try, but seems the quickest way.