15th August 2012
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#31 | | 70% Coffee, 30% Beer
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yea, Doc_ !!!! those are SOME AMAZING MIC's [I'm very jealous]
Got to use one for a while, "back_in_the_day_of_gear", before it was sold off to a lucky home.
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15th August 2012
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#32 | | Lives for gear
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I'm very curious ..Big fan of Gefell here!
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15th August 2012
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#33 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by carloff  I'm very curious ..Big fan of Gefell here! | If you can't afford the mic., you can still buy the watch...   | |
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15th August 2012
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#34 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jul 2003 Location: Czech republic
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I have seen it already  might be Xmas present? ))
I would like to buy the new mic next year..
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20th August 2012
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#35 | | Gear addict
Joined: Sep 2007 Location: London UK
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Any more info on the Gefell CMV?
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20th August 2012
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#36 | | Lives for gear
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I must have that watch!
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20th August 2012
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#37 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Chevron Any more info on the Gefell CMV? | There should be one in the UK soon for review by Sound On Sound.
If you want a quick look before it goes to SOS please send me a PM.
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26th August 2012
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#38 | | Gear nut
Joined: Nov 2007 Location: La Chaux-de-Fonds - CH
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Hi,
Has somebody tried it yet?
thanx
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26th August 2012
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#39 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by mrmecanique Has somebody tried it yet? | Well, they have certainly shipped quite a few.
I should have one within a week (possibly two) that will go to Sound On Sound for review.
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3rd September 2012
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#40 | | Lives for gear
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Just to say I have a demo CMV in the UK now - Gefell sent a second unit to Sound On Sound.
I will have it at the SoundPRO 2012 exhibition at Pinewood Studios on the 18th September and it will be available to try out if needed.
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5th September 2012
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#41 | | 70% Coffee, 30% Beer
Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Quincy, MA
Posts: 9,121
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A couple drool inducing pictures of the CMV563/M7S
I want to move out of my apartment and into the CMV's case
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5th September 2012
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#42 | | Lives for gear
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The only thing missing is "The Original George Neumann GMBH/Company"
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5th September 2012
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#43 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Ward Pike The only thing missing is "The Original George Neumann GMBH/Company" | Actually, Gefell was originally "Georg Neumann & Co." - Microtech Gefell was handed back to them (now renamed Georg Neumann KG) in 1993.
Georg Neumann GmbH was only the post-war version, now owned by Sennheiser.
Oh - and Gefell did clear using the Gefell logo in the Diamond with Neumann-Berlin before they used it, as the two companies do talk to each other and get on well.
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5th September 2012
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#44 | | Lives for gear
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I think Microtech Gefell should stick with the name Neumann-Gefell, instead of Microtech Gefell, as Gefell is a city name and not really trademarkable.
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6th September 2012
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#45 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Feb 2005 Location: mexico
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Originally Posted by Doc Mixwell A couple drool inducing pictures of the CMV563/M7S
I want to move out of my apartment and into the CMV's case | Grand!
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6th September 2012
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#46 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by cinealta I think Microtech Gefell should stick with the name Neumann-Gefell, instead of Microtech Gefell, as Gefell is a city name and not really trademarkable. | I agree with that. Of course, Ideally, I would love to see Gefell buy the Neumann division from Sennheiser and reunite it all into one powerhouse company!
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15th October 2012
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#47 | | Lives for gear
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So... where are the reviews and samples?  | |
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16th October 2012
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#48 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by matucha So... where are the reviews and samples? | Loan units are out there and Hugh Robjohns of Sound On Sound has a review unit at this very moment, so it should be in SOS soon.
And I received my M7 watch today.  | |
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20th October 2012
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#49 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2005 Location: bern / switzerland
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I've found these polar responses in the Mictotech Gefell brochure for their 'new' old microphone and this is one of the reasons I don't like vintage capsule designs.
Why is this called a cardioid? The capsule is a just a bit more directional than a wide cardioid in the lower frequency area and above 1kHz it shows pattern mix-up.
I know, Microtech Gefell can do it much better today - but they wanted to be compatible and match the old imperfect capsules.
If you place this microphone, be aware of its exotic directional characteristics and listen carefully to the coloration you will get.
(btw, I have a rarely used UM70s by myself and I think it looks pretty similar :-) )
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20th October 2012
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#50 | | Lives for gear
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You are referring to the 180° response but the 90° one is closer to -6 dB cardioid than to the -4 dB wide cardioid.
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20th October 2012
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#51 | | 70% Coffee, 30% Beer
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The Cardioid Pattern is Beautiful sounding on the CMV563/m7s
Very different compared to the UMT70s
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20th October 2012
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#52 | | Gear nut
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...I dont want to spoil the party - I just see microphones less emotional. They are just tools following the laws of physics. The music should give you the emotion, not the gear ...I mean -just listen to the coloration of the sound and if this is what you want, it is ok :-)
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20th October 2012
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#53 | | 70% Coffee, 30% Beer
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Originally Posted by zoom ...I dont want to spoil the party - I just see microphones less emotional. They are just tools following the laws of physics. The music should give you the emotion, not the gear ...I mean -just listen to the coloration of the sound and if this is what you want, it is ok :-) | Well, this mic certainly left a strong emotional impact on me
It sounds "finished"
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20th October 2012
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#54 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2007 Location: Fano
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Originally Posted by John Willett If it's the original manufacturer - it's not a replica, it's an original. | then a C12VR should be an original C12....
Gefell redesigned the amp with another tube, different specs and quite different frequency response, I'd say it's fair to consider it an updated remake.
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22nd October 2012
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#55 | | Lives for gear
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Wouldn't it be great if Neumann-Gefell could reissues the U47/48 as a U74? And the M49 as the M94? After all, they did have something to do with those microphones too!! | |
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22nd October 2012
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#56 | | Gear maniac | as per the cardioid pattern
One of my faaavorite aspects of the original CMV563's is the off axis response. Gorgeous room sounds and bleed...
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5th December 2012
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#57 | | Gear interested
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One of my faaavorite aspects of the original CMV563's is the off axis response. Gorgeous room sounds and bleed...
| I agree. I have a real u47 among dozens of other great microphones, and the CMV is my girl. Love. So good on vocals, mono room, clean electrics. If you want to EQ the top end a touch, just rotate the mic. Never ugly or weird, just different.
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6th December 2012
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#58 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Oxfordshire, UK
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Avast! One of my faaavorite aspects of the original CMV563's is the off axis response. Gorgeous room sounds and bleed... | That should not change with the new one as the CMV 563 is the amplifier section - it's the M7S capsule that gives the polar-pattern. | |
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7th December 2012
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#59 | | Lives for gear
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I believe I saw information about Gefell changed pvc material of the capsules since a little time and the sound would be less good than before, different from the original, the cmv should be concerned as it's a m7? I think some um92s users experienced that
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7th December 2012
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#60 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2008 Location: Oxfordshire, UK
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by KIDBILL I believe I saw information about Gefell changed pvc material of the capsules since a little time and the sound would be less good than before, different from the original, the cmv should be concerned as it's a m7? I think some um92s users experienced that | I can't answer about any change in the PVC - but why do you assume it would be worse and not better?
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