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Old 13th January 2012   #1
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2 buss suggestion for dance music ?

I need a 2buss suggestion near my ssl comp and distressor chain. I'm thinkin one more comp Fet comp maybe ? I want a fast bass response so I need one eq or pre for fatness and i need one more for general sheen.
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Old 13th January 2012   #2
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Elysia stuff is very good for dance music. If budget is no matter try to get the comp one rockruepel. It's awesome.
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Elysia stuff is very good for dance music. If budget is no matter try to get the comp one rockruepel. It's awesome.
yeah i think elysia is very in your face compressor it's good have a nice image but i prefer it for tracking for to push some sounds in the mix. Rockruepel is over budget what will you reccomend for 2 buss eq ?
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i have a elysia xpressor 500 and love it.
another comp i think would hit the spot and i use on my two buss
is the A-Design HM2 NAIL!
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it's my understanding a lot of house has been mixed with a 3630 on the 2 buss. the obvious pumping is the desired effect.
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What don't you like about your SSL comp? I'm guessing a 384 bus comp?
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yeah just got the xpressor 500, would be perfect for dance music
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it's my understanding a lot of house has been mixed with a 3630 on the 2 buss. the obvious pumping is the desired effect.
3630, as in Alesis? That would certainly be cost effective!! Never heard that before.
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Focusrite 230 or 330 if your budget allows it!
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it's my understanding a lot of house has been mixed with a 3630 on the 2 buss. the obvious pumping is the desired effect.
Daft Punk used it alot, but only for sidechaining, not on the master buss.

I use Safe Sound Dynamic Toolbox for house music / electronical stuff, tight and pleasant compression and it has a wet / dry - function for buss processing. For ultra clean synth sounds / mixdowns I use tube gear, such as Manley and HCL.

JDK Audio R22 (yeah really) is great as well when you find out the right settings, gives a good "thump" and "smack" effect. It's not in the same ball park as Elysia, but I have found it really useful.
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i have a elysia xpressor 500 and love it.
another comp i think would hit the spot and i use on my two buss
is the A-Design HM2 NAIL!
I think A Design hm2 is a great comp but have a very soft sound.Can be great for soft rock or jazz mixes or female vocal tracking but not for me maybe later.. cause first i have to fix the problem on my 2 buss . Do u think can i get a punch with a pultec clone eq s on the 2 buss ? mercury or another clone. Or maybe i need a just harrison 32 eq for marshmallowing the 220 250 ?


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What don't you like about your SSL comp? I'm guessing a 384 bus comp?
It's x racks compressor.I love it but i need one more comp after distressor between ssl . May be a fet comp style comp ? or xpressor ?


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Focusrite 230 or 330 if your budget allows it!
i heard that it's pushing 2k 4 k but i need 220-250 edge.

exactly my problem is , ''what do i need between distressor and ssl comp on the 2buss ?''
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a lot of the dance music i find with the best mixdowns actually ends up having nothing on the stereo bus! surprised me too...
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a lot of the dance music i find with the best mixdowns actually ends up having nothing on the stereo bus! surprised me too...
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SSL sounds great with electronic/dance music.
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I also love the SSL for the 2-bus for electronic music. That's generally my first choice for most electronic mixes. Sometimes, if the mix elements are already highly compressed, I may reach for the Neve 2254's...or occasionally I'll use the SSL for compression and use the 2254 in series for the make-up gain, which is a great combination. The 33609 can also excel on the 2-bus for some electronic mixes -- JB
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I also love the SSL for the 2-bus for electronic music. That's generally my first choice for most electronic mixes. Sometimes, if the mix elements are already highly compressed, I may reach for the Neve 2254's...or occasionally I'll use the SSL for compression and use the 2254 in series for the make-up gain, which is a great combination. The 33609 can also excel on the 2-bus for some electronic mixes -- JB
Is linderberghpalace ep have this 2-bus combination ?
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Hey hknnart,

It varied from song to song...

Starz was mixed with the 2254's on the mix bus.
Scary was mixed through the AMS-Neve 33609/JD.
Paralyze was mixed with the SSL compressor.
And Days Don't Fade was mixed entirely in the box.

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2254 have a great vocal definition. Have a sound.
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The new Looptrotter MONSTER compressor has a great stereo FET compressor as well as a very cool saturation circuit that I find very well suited for electronic style music.

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I found the C2 to be the best for that.
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i make edm and had the elysia for a week... it's good but if you have a solid plugin chain on the 2 buss it's not really that useful...

if i had the money it would be the maselec mla 3
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a lot of the dance music i find with the best mixdowns actually ends up having nothing on the stereo bus! surprised me too...
I have nothing on the 2-buss as well doing dance music. I will try the 2254 'though.
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No one's thought of an 1176 yet? A stereo pair of 1176s CRUSH in the most musical way with giving low end a lovely richness ... and who doesn't love an ample bottom?
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On the 2 buss, my fav units are:
GML 8900, transparently sexy,
QES Labs Variable Gm, fat, warm, amazing 3-D depth.

Recently got a pair of 2254's racked.

For electronic mixes, I feel multi-band processing works better.

I've had the chance to order a multi-band processor, a passive splitter-summer as a custom build from Qes Labs.
Similar to the three-sum from Drawmer, but essentially passive, with a ruler flat response.
Quite happy with the results.
Variable-Gm on the bass, 2254's for the mid, 8900 for the treble.
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3630, as in Alesis? That would certainly be cost effective!! Never heard that before.
I think that's just a myth. At least nowadays no one seriously doing music works with a 3630 on the 2buss.


To the OP: I use once in a while my Pendulum ES-8. Haven't tried my API 2500 yet on the 2 buss, just on the drum buss and there it rocks. In general I don't use anything on the 2buss, because dance music is usually less dynamic from begin with. If I feel to change the overall mix sound, let's say it sounds dull, I change that in the mix, not on the buss.
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I have nothing on the 2-buss as well doing dance music.
Lately this has been my approach too. Can get a similar "compressed" vibe and have more control by compressing the subgroups.

Depends on the type of tracks though, for certain sparse arranged tracks, 2 buss processing can do wonders. I like my TT SMC2A for that, in parallel..
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I've had the chance to order a multi-band processor, a passive splitter-summer as a custom build from Qes Labs.
Similar to the three-sum from Drawmer, but essentially passive, with a ruler flat response.
Quite happy with the results.
Variable-Gm on the bass, 2254's for the mid, 8900 for the treble.
Sounds like fun! But still wouldn't it have your preference and be similar to do multi buss processing? (brauer style) Kick and bass Vari, synths 2254, highs, rest 8900?

That's how I am working mostly now, Beats and bass to the Tubetech multiband / Synths throught the TFpro /Vox Anamod 660
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I find that it depends so much on the type of "dance music" and specifically how it is made.... If it's a bunch of VI's in a Logic session mixed in the box... something like my Manley SLAM gets used... Also mentioned already is ADesigns and other tube and warm opto style compressors. If the tracked is mixed well and sound good, API, SSL and Focusrite can be perfect. It also depends alot on what is happening on the bottom end. If it's just for your own stuff, buy whichever can compliment and "fix" what is wrong with your mixes...
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I think that's just a myth. At least nowadays no one seriously doing music works with a 3630 on the 2buss.
wrong...kris menace
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