2 buss suggestion for dance music ?

[housegezeichnet]

Originally Posted by deft_bonz

kra$$
but i still couldn't see it on the pics
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augen auf! left side second unit right below his µ MENACE-1176X-LN

[deft_bonz]

oh i see it now, the proof, that he uses the 3630 on the 2buss instead of the 1176 or ssl clone



i'll try the new 3632 on the 2buss, you never know when its sound will suit the track.

[housegezeichnet]

Ganz schön aufmüpfig,oder?

This wasn't meant to be the proof that he's using it on the 2bus i just wanted to show you that you were wrong with your statement regarding the pictures...

Iirc he said in the future music feature that this unit is part of his sound and ALWAYS on his masterbus

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[Tom H]

Originally Posted by deft_bonz

i'll try the new 3632 on the 2buss, you never know when its sound will suit the track.

Tried it out yet? Do you have a 3630 to compare it with, kinda curious what it's like, wonder if its artifacts are as audible... You have not by any chance mod it now do you?

[deft_bonz]

Originally Posted by Tom H

Tried it out yet? Do you have a 3630 to compare it with, kinda curious what it's like, wonder if its artifacts are as audible... You have not by any chance mod it now do you?

Not yet. Still have to solve the 110V issue. This, I hope, I'll be able to solve this weekend. I can't compare it to the 3630, I just bought the new ones. I haven't mod them. I'm not sure if it's necessary, because I'm going to use them as sidechain duckers for single instruments/tracks.

[Mr. Bars]

I can highly recommend pair of Chandler Germanium comp. Very high quality FET comp with a lot of settings, useful side chain filter, selectable curve, mix knob and drive/feetback option. You can dial almost all kind of sound you are looking for with this unit. Very very versatile and Chandler sound as well. I use it enough often as my go to compressor. Also TFPro P38EX is brilliant opto comp - same words like about Germanium but with more affordable price.

[deft_bonz]

Originally Posted by Mr. Bars

I can highly recommend pair of Chandler Germanium comp. Very high quality FET comp with a lot of settings, useful side chain filter, selectable curve, mix knob and drive/feetback option. You can dial almost all kind of sound you are looking for with this unit. Very very versatile and Chandler sound as well. I use it enough often as my go to compressor. Also TFPro P38EX is brilliant opto comp - same words like about Germanium but with more affordable price.

Definitely 1000 thumb ups for the germ pre, although I haven't yet tested them on the 2 buss.

[Tom H]

Originally Posted by deft_bonz

Not yet. Still have to solve the 110V issue. This, I hope, I'll be able to solve this weekend. I can't compare it to the 3630, I just bought the new ones. I haven't mod them. I'm not sure if it's necessary, because I'm going to use them as sidechain duckers for single instruments/tracks.

I see, good luck with that! Keep us posted though.

[4blades]

Originally Posted by 4blades

On the 2 buss, my fav units are:
GML 8900, transparently sexy,
QES Labs Variable Gm, fat, warm, amazing 3-D depth.

Recently got a pair of 2254's racked.

For electronic mixes, I feel multi-band processing works better.

I've had the chance to order a multi-band processor, a passive splitter-summer as a custom build from Qes Labs.
Similar to the three-sum from Drawmer, but essentially passive, with a ruler flat response.
Quite happy with the results.
Variable-Gm on the bass, 2254's for the mid, 8900 for the treble.

Originally Posted by Tom H

Sounds like fun! But still wouldn't it have your preference and be similar to do multi buss processing? (brauer style) Kick and bass Vari, synths 2254, highs, rest 8900?

That's how I am working mostly now, Beats and bass to the Tubetech multiband / Synths throught the TFpro /Vox Anamod 660

Sure that's fun!
I'm getting what I need with stereo multi-band splitting-summing.
This way I can interchange the units to suit my needs.
Ref. your multi-bus processing style, I work with stereo files, so the way I'm processing is best suited for this.

[hknnart]

Originally Posted by Mr. Bars

I can highly recommend pair of Chandler Germanium comp. Very high quality FET comp with a lot of settings, useful side chain filter, selectable curve, mix knob and drive/feetback option. You can dial almost all kind of sound you are looking for with this unit. Very very versatile and Chandler sound as well. I use it enough often as my go to compressor. Also TFPro P38EX is brilliant opto comp - same words like about Germanium but with more affordable price.

germanium comp is very musical iknow, but i'm between smc2b, monster comp and stc 8 right now. Owner guys says Smc2b working great with gml8200. But do i finish my work faster with stc 8 ? Some of my tracks can work great with tape machine but some not . So if i need little saturation in the mix (direct to converter , without tape, more clean session) , Monster comp can work great ..
What do i have to do guys ?

[FakeOnMercy]

little bumpy on this interesting thread!

OP: did you make your decision?

[Ossicle]

Originally Posted by Resonance5

i make edm and had the elysia for a week... it's good but if you have a solid plugin chain on the 2 buss it's not really that useful...

+ 1

I make "edm", tried the Xpressor for a few days and always got better results with the Cytomic Glue. It had a musical and well-controlled sound but was way too gentle for my taste. No smack, no to-the-gut punch like the Glue.

[Joram]

Originally Posted by Tom H

Lately this has been my approach too. Can get a similar "compressed" vibe and have more control by compressing the subgroups.

Depends on the type of tracks though, for certain sparse arranged tracks, 2 buss processing can do wonders. I like my TT SMC2A for that, in parallel..

I tried Tubetech's smc2b lately. Very helpful.

[ionian]

Originally Posted by Ossicle

+ 1

I make "edm", tried the Xpressor for a few days and always got better results with the Cytomic Glue. It had a musical and well-controlled sound but was way too gentle for my taste. No smack, no to-the-gut punch like the Glue.

You may have answered your own question there. When you talk about "smack" and gut punching, that's SSL territory which is what the Glue is emulating. The Elysia doesn't emulate SSL type compression, it's completely different. I also own the Xpressor and love it on individual instruments and instrument busses but for the SSL smack, I use my Obsidian for that very reason I stated. The Obsidian does the SSL thing which is smack and punch.

No matter how much I love the Xpressor, I keep my Obsidian on my master bus for that very reason.

I suspect if you tried one of the many SSL type hardware compressors out there you might find the smack and punch you were looking for, which is why you favored the Glue.

Regards,
Frank

[Looneytune]

Originally Posted by housegezeichnet

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augen auf! left side second unit right below his µ MENACE-1176X-LN

Good looking dude, plenty of light!
Nice!

[Ossicle]

Originally Posted by ionian

You may have answered your own question there. When you talk about "smack" and gut punching, that's SSL territory which is what the Glue is emulating. The Elysia doesn't emulate SSL type compression, it's completely different. I also own the Xpressor and love it on individual instruments and instrument busses but for the SSL smack, I use my Obsidian for that very reason I stated. The Obsidian does the SSL thing which is smack and punch.

No matter how much I love the Xpressor, I keep my Obsidian on my master bus for that very reason.

I suspect if you tried one of the many SSL type hardware compressors out there you might find the smack and punch you were looking for, which is why you favored the Glue.

Regards,
Frank

Yes indeed, my post above was more about not personally preferring the Xpressor on the master for edm.

What I'm wondering is whether the SSL style hardware for 2buss would be worth it considering how well the Glue does it. I suppose the best thing is to try them. Tons of options: SSL X-rack, Smart C1 (side chain modded), Smart C2, Obsidian, TK ...

Based on what I've read the Smart C1 would be the best option to "upgrade" from the Glue.

[ionian]

Originally Posted by Ossicle

What I'm wondering is whether the SSL style hardware for 2buss would be worth it considering how well the Glue does it. I suppose the best thing is to try them. Tons of options: SSL X-rack, Smart C1 (side chain modded), Smart C2, Obsidian, TK ...

I've never really played with the Glue much so I'm not sure but I've heard it's pretty good compared to hardware so you might not have a need to move to the smart. There are a lot of threads here I think comparing the Glue to hardware and it always seems to be a toss up with which one is better.

Regards,
Frank