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| Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2005
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| which 500 series preamp has the best transient response? I'm looking to invest in a stereo pre setup for a pair of sr30 earthworks and am wondering if anyone is using 500 series pre's with these mics and how they like them. I don't want a very clean sounding module, but the transient response must be very good (using them as drum overheads). At the moment I'm looking at purple and a-designs, but found no information regarding their transient response here on gearslutz. If anyone could lead me in the right direction to a great sounding 'fast' 500 series pre it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jeremy |
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| Gear nut Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: sunny southampton
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| 500 series id suggest u wait for the john hardy 500 pre if it's overhead usethe new biz ma pre looks good but id say the hardy there was a thread on it in the new gear forum i think |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: tx
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| Any reason not to consider API's? I think one could safely say that they've been used on a jillion recordings of drumsets. ![]() |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: MIAMI FLA
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| The Hardy's always wonderful..esp vocals...but the API has an agressive sound thats hard to beat...no matter how many times others try
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| Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South Florida
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| Hardy's In 500 form? When do these come out. I need to fill the lunchbox and I love the M1-2 pres ![]() |
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| Gear nut Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Evanston, IL
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1. An M-1 style card. 2. An M-2 style card. 3. A Jensen Twin Servo style card. I'm well along the way with the Jensen Twin Servo design. I started with it because it is the most difficult (two 990C op-amps vs. one 990C for the M-1 and M-2). The M1 and M-2 will follow quickly. I hope I will have the designs done in the next 30-60 days. Thank you. John Hardy The John Hardy Co. www.johnhardyco.com | |
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| Lives for gear | You may want to give this a consideration, since Buzz Audio is known for having VERY fast preamps, in general. http://www.buzzaudio.com/products/elixir.htm
__________________ Nathan Eldred Atlas Pro Audio- Boutique Gear, Consultation, Sales, & Distibution Home of the Atlas Juggernaut Preamp & 500 Series Revolver Rack USA Distributor for Buzz Audio Exclusive Worldwide Distributor for Atlas Pro Audio Gear, Old School Audio (OSA), and Burgin McDaniel Design ![]() Atlas Recording Studios, Inc. Recording/Mixing/Mastering Services |
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| Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2005
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in other words, what would work for easier stuff - like jazz drums, brush, hand percussion.. bossa/lounge type thing ?? API again, or ? im about to dwelve into world of eisen kits too, and first thought of making api-based clone, perhaps use 990 later on .. so many options.. thnx | |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bloomington Il
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| Shiny Box (the ribbon import co) was showing 2 pres for the 500 designed by Brad Avenson at TapeOpCon. One is transformerless and might be a really great cost effective alternative.
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| If you are really interested in transient response, you should ask the manufacturer to give you the slew rate spec, it is real easy to measure. But, in order to be meaningful, the slew rate needs to be measured at a sensible output level like +10dBu, not -20dBu. A slew rate spec given without the output level at which it is measured is meaningless. Which reminds me, I have some measuring to do! Tim.
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 500 Series Land/San Antonio,Tx
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the elixir is amazingly true to the source but still manages to flatter it in the bottom end in a way i cant get enough of
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| 500 series nutjob | +2
__________________ www.pan60.com A CHARTER MEMBER OF THE LA, MAFIA where is LA? IF YOU ARE NOT INTO THE 500 FORMAT, THEN YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS! quote: your secret identity is safe with me superman! Peter Montessi it is easy to sound as though one was endowed with great intelligence, whilst speaking amongst a crowd of total morons |
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| member no 666 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Foxboro, MA USA
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Transient response is another matter of aesthetic. Tens of thousands of AMAZING sounding recordings have been made employing mics and pre's without the worlds greatest transient response "spec"... a "specification" is just a "specification"... it has NOTHING to do with the sound of anything. At least in my world, I record music. Been at this 30 something years still haven't recorded a specification but I suppose there is still time. However, in that 30 years I've recorded quite a bit of music... and in that 30 years I've found that it's more about how the equipment you choose compliments the music than anything else. My advice to you would be to step away from the "audio forums" [where most people are either plugging products or rationalizing their latest purchase] and go listen to this stuff. There is going to be a great big exposition where pretty much all this stuff will be represented. It will be in New York from October 5th through the 8th. I will be more than happy to send you passes to the exposition if you'd like... and I believe you can get passes through this site if you're interested in doing some of the intial homework. Bring your SR 30's with you [you'll have to check them in so you can get them out of the hall]... bring a set of keys with you... jangle the keys in front of the mic while listening through the pre-amps you're considering for purchase. The one that makes those keys sound best for you is probably going to be an excellent starting point as you fill your 500 series frame. Anything else anyone has to say on the subject is really just conjecture for your reality, an affirmation of their reality, or sales horseshit. Go to the show, pick out a few that interest you... order them. Try them in your studio, on your music and determine which [if any] please your sense of aesthetic. If you're serious about doing your homework... well that's the way real homework is done. If you want to watch a neat thread develop on Gearslutz where folks talk about their experiences [which you have probably never heard, nor shall you ever hear] then you're off to a great start... but NOTHING compares to direct experience. Peace.
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: right coast
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For some reason people on gearslutz always want the "latest" "most talked about" gear, and then they ask how to get sounds like the old days. That always cracks me up. If anyone has an API rack that they are filling with gear, my advice is to make sure that you have a few of the real thing before you get nutty with all these new 500 series modules from all these other companies. API does API best. | |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: MIAMI FLA
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| Your eyes dont hear mic pres...Listen...as Fletcher said !! Are you recording music or making a sample CD ??
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| 500 series nutjob | i agree with Fletcher, their is no substitute for hear a piece of gear. i know that is not always possible, but, most reputable dealers will let you addition gear, if one pre dose not cut it for you they will let you trade for something else. build a relationship with a rep it will go a long ways for you. now having said that i own or have auditioned and or reviewed a very large number of 500 format pres and i will say that so far all the ones i have had in here have been very good and you could get just about any one of them and be fine.
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| Lives for gear | I wonder if people viewed 19" rack gear the same way back whenever the first company (Fairchild or Pultec probably) came out with the first piece of 19" rack gear and no other gear (other than maybe computer or military) existed in that form? Because it was at one point a non universal physical size format, they (the original audio company who used 19" size for their pres, EQ, or comps) were the 'originals' so all other subsequent companies who came out with 19" rack gear were superfluous unless the original comany who used the 19" format was purchased originally by the end user.
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i would not call Great River API other than the format. i would not call Shadow Hills API other than the format. i would not call Buzz API other than the format. oh and did i say that socket that API chose for the 500 format is a standard. i will be the first to say if you want API then get API. we could go on and on but their is more to gear then just the name.
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just saying the others are not clones or copies of API other then the format. and depending on your taste, the others are as good or better then API. so i feel a statement like Quote:
i just do not get that argument:(
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My point was, everyone is on this 500 series kicked. Don't forget, even though it's always been here, the API stuff is hard to mess with, and if you're going to have a rack, it should be represented. So, in short. Fu<k off. ![]() | |
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| Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: L.A.
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| He wants to use them on overheads...I'm not a big fan of the APIs on overheads...Ok. Flame suit on. Lets go. |
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