12th January 2012
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#31 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Aug 2009
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Originally Posted by emrr  When you build ten of something in parallel, you save a ton of time over building just one. | Most of the time in building something new, is familiarizing yourself with how it's built. Once you get over the hurdle of the first few builds, you can make a system that will cut the time in half. Just like mixing on a new console.
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13th January 2012
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#32 | | -
Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto
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Who's able to post another drum or mix bus clip?
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14th January 2012
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#33 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 869
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Originally Posted by Elvis Gotta Gun Who's able to post another drum or mix bus clip? | I've been meaning to make a video of this thing in action, but haven't yet gotten around to it. Hopefully soon.
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14th January 2012
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#34 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jul 2006 Location: So Cal
Posts: 13,873
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For any non-owners lurking, I believe there is a Tape Op review coming out this coming week. Interesting to see what they have to say, although I have a fairly good idea.....  | |
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14th January 2012
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#35 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jan 2011 Location: The Cities (twin that is)
Posts: 307
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I will be buggin mike to make a mono version just for vox!
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24th January 2012
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#37 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jul 2006 Location: So Cal
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Ha! Beat me to it Dan!  I thought there were some good examples of applications in there that I hadn't thought of. Still learning this guy. It's deep and lots of options....
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13th February 2012
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#38 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jul 2011 Location: NJ
Posts: 39
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Just set mine up, will report back soon...
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17th February 2012
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#39 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2006 Location: Fremont, CA
Posts: 138
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I got my SB4001 just a few days ago. I've used the Waves SSL plug in on every single mix I've done for the past 8 years. (30ms, 4:1, Auto Release) There was one year where the studio I was at had an Alan Smart C2. I loved it, but it left more to be desired. That THRUST circuit was awesome. Would have been even more awesome with a blend knob. Anyways... This SB4001 is "The One" and will never leave my mix bus. It just makes my mixes sound more "finished". It's a magic sheen that can make the audio more intense or smooth depending on the blend, ratios, and grind mode. The new A2 auto release is really cool as well. It works better for the genre's and faster tempos that I record where as the standard SSL Auto made things a little too smooth at times. The A2 sounds faster, aggressive and more in my face. Also, the variable release is KILLER!
I actually have the day of to wire up this guy and my new overstayers to the patch bays. (BTW, Overstayer VCA sounds very different when compared to the SB4001)
I'd be more than happy to post some clips of drum and mix bus. I record A LOT of heavy music, but could include some examples of slower tempos and softer music if necessary. Any preferences?
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20th February 2012
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#40 | | Gear interested
Joined: May 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Hey guys. I've been researching buss comps for some time now and have used only the SSL comp in a console and a Smart C2. From my research, what sets the SSL comp above most of the others is the dual side chain for a better stereo comp. Is this true? Does the SB4001 have a dual or super side chain/turbo mod? Does it keep the stereo image pretty wide? For the money I don't see any better option. I was looking at the TK Audio BC-1, but this SB4001 sounds way more versatile.
Also, this would be my first 500 series module. Any advice on lunchboxes?
Thanks!
Brian
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21st July 2012
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#41 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 973
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Hey guys, any updates on the Serpent? I'm really kickin' the idea around to go on my 2 bus. I currently have a Chameleon Labs 7720. Anyone know how they compare? The 7720 is pretty darn good for $500.
Any input is appreciated.
Thanks,
JROD
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21st July 2012
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#42 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jul 2006 Location: So Cal
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Still using it, still loving it.
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21st July 2012
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#43 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO
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So, Serpent or Elysia?
JROD
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21st July 2012
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#44 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jul 2006 Location: So Cal
Posts: 13,873
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Originally Posted by jrod9900 So, Serpent or Elysia?
JROD |  Never used the Elysia, but if you want an SSL style compressor that's (IMO) more flexable and better than an SSL, SB4001.  | |
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21st July 2012
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#45 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO
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I do likes me some SSL buss comp action...
JROD
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21st July 2012
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#46 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jan 2011 Location: The Cities (twin that is)
Posts: 307
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Originally Posted by drBill Still using it, still loving it. | Me too!
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22nd July 2012
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#47 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2006 Location: Fremont, CA
Posts: 138
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Originally Posted by goldencd Me too! | Me 3
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22nd July 2012
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#48 | | Lives for gear
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Yeah, I use it all the time still. Its the best option out there for the SSL kind of thing at the moment. The rare occasion I don't use it on the mix buss it finds its self nicely on the drums or some other tracks. I actually have a few of them. I am thinking of buying a 3rd for a set of mixes I have coming up that I know it will sound great on! The features sets make it so nice, I do love them. The price is great as well!
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22nd July 2012
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#49 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 973
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Looks like I might have to pick one of these up...
JROD
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23rd July 2012
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#50 | | Gear nut
Joined: Aug 2009 Location: DFW
Posts: 86
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Happy owner here. LOVE the filters, boost and slope. Slope will really help tame excessive high end content. (cymbals tracked too harsh) Variable Release owns. Lives on two buss. Also excels at vocals. Very smooth when used on vox on the way in. This little guy is VERY flexible. A lot of options for the money.
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13th September 2012
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#51 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 973
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About ready to do this, but I haven't heard anything about this versus the Drastic Obsidian. Any input???
Also, I like the features on the Serpent when compared to everything else. Just hope this thing sounds amazing.
JROD
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13th September 2012
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#52 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jul 2006 Location: So Cal
Posts: 13,873
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Originally Posted by jrod9900 Just hope this thing sounds amazing. | You don't have to hope too hard....
it does
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13th September 2012
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#53 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2006 Location: Minneapolis |
+1
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13th September 2012
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#54 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Ok, I'm trusting you two! Lol
Thanks Bill and Dan.
JROD
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13th September 2012
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#55 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,285
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I don't have Obsidian, but have put the SB4001 against Smart C2 and GSSL clone. Would say the GSSL is a bit grundgy with the C2 very clean and hifi sounding. The SB4001 is somewhere in the middle of them.
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13th September 2012
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#56 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 973
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Thanks Johnny. Which do you prefer for mixbuss duties?
JROD
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14th September 2012
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#57 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,285
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Maybe 65/35 in favor of the C2 (with an eq on the sidechain), although the 1968 shows up on there time to time as well. The SB4001 is nice because it has the filters built in, the downside is there are a lot of knobs in a small space, but such is life sometimes in 500 series land.
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14th September 2012
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#58 | | Telling it like it is
Joined: May 2010 Location: Queens, NY
Posts: 3,033
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I have an Obsidian. I haven't had a chance to try the SB4001, though. If someone wants me to run a mix or something through the Obsidian, let me know. It wouldn't be a problem.
Regards,
Frank
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14th September 2012
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#59 | | Gear addict
Joined: Apr 2010 Location: PARIS ; FRANCE
Posts: 448
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You guys are killin me ...
where the hell will i have to find money to buy this "serpent " ...
using waves ssl comp here ; so i ve always wanted that sound but on the hardware format ...
So ssl ; alan smart ; tk audio ; obsedian ; and now this ...
happy with the reviews of u guys so far ...
PEACE
MORDICUS
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14th September 2012
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#60 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 973
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Hey Frank, I may take you up on that. I think all my mixes of late would be a pain to recall, but I'll see if I can.
So, back to the Smart vs Serpent, do you find the Serpent sounding inferior or just hard to use with small knobs. It seems the features on the Serpent are superior to most other units. I can't tell you how important the HPF is on my Chameleon.
Then, on the other side of my mind I wonder if I should just drop the pesos and get a smart and a sidechain HPF. But that's a LOT more change...
Thanks,
JROD
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