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murp · 2nd November 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwagener

So has anybody heard the album? Anything I should do different next time? How do you guys like it?

hmm... it's ok, but I really think you should have gone for more keyboards...

Seriously though, it will take a while to get to my shores. I'll be sure to weigh in with my 2 cents though when it does.

Rogervandeberg · 3rd November 2006

Haven't heard it properly yet, i guess it takes a while to take it to holland! But ive listened on amazon (20kbps

so for the sound it was worthless), but i really like the tunes of "When God Can't Wait" and "love is dead" and "another dick in the system"!!!!

S75 · 12th June 2008

Hello Mr Wagener,
first of all thank you for sharing all this info!! and congratulation for the great work with SR

Reading back this really interesting thread I have some questions:

- About Vocal compression (the vox is great), just curious if you have checked STC8 for a similar use of Distressor (really different dynamics from -20 GR at extreme compression at louder parts to light comp in the soft passage). If yes what do you think?

- I have seen that you compress 3/4 db with STC8...during mix do you usually use to compress lightly the single tracks and then press the Stc8 considering his 'transparent' feature?

- STC: do you use always in dual mono setting? Why? Do you prefer usually the ki mode?

- I'm not so familiar with Massive Passive so I cannot compare, but when I have seen the settings (that should be more or less: 80 hz shelf boost - 800 bell boost - 4.7 khz bell boost - 6 khz shelf boost) I was surprise to see the 800 boost and above all the gain values that seem very high about 8/10 db. Some comments? Does it often happen?

- I have seen that you use more mics for kick and bass...in which freq do you have usually the crossover points (if you have of course) for them? Do you cut some very low end (20/40 hz) when tracking or mixing?

- Some particular treatment for the guitars in the low mid part?

- Do you usually record at 24bit and? 44.1 or 96

Thank you!!!!

S75 · 7th July 2008

I Try again!

Regards

**mwagener** · 8th July 2008

Sorry, didn't see this one, thanx for the reminder.

Quote:

Originally Posted by S75

Hello Mr Wagener,
first of all thank you for sharing all this info!! and congratulation for the great work with SR

Reading back this really interesting thread I have some questions:

- About Vocal compression (the vox is great), just curious if you have checked STC8 for a similar use of Distressor (really different dynamics from -20 GR at extreme compression at louder parts to light comp in the soft passage). If yes what do you think?

Haven't tried the STC-8 on separate tracks yet, it's nailed to the stereo bus.

Quote:

Originally Posted by S75

- I have seen that you compress 3/4 db with STC8...during mix do you usually use to compress lightly the single tracks and then press the Stc8 considering his 'transparent' feature?

I try not to compress the single tracks at all, if possible, recording and mixing. The lead vocal and drum room mics are the only tracks that get normally compressed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by S75

- STC: do you use always in dual mono setting? Why? Do you prefer usually the ki mode?

I don't want the left side dynamics influencing the right and the other way around. I flip between ki and hara, depending on the song, no rules.

Quote:

Originally Posted by S75

- I'm not so familiar with Massive Passive so I cannot compare, but when I have seen the settings (that should be more or less: 80 hz shelf boost - 800 bell boost - 4.7 khz bell boost - 6 khz shelf boost) I was surprise to see the 800 boost and above all the gain values that seem very high about 8/10 db. Some comments? Does it often happen?

The Massive Passive is a different beast, don't go by what you see on the dials. These are just what I ended up with on this mix, but the settings tend to be somewhat similar on other records.

Quote:

Originally Posted by S75

- I have seen that you use more mics for kick and bass...in which freq do you have usually the crossover points (if you have of course) for them? Do you cut some very low end (20/40 hz) when tracking or mixing?

I use a "clicky" mic for inside the kick and the Sub-Kick for the outside. In the mix I normally low pass the sub-kick at around 300Hz

Quote:

Originally Posted by S75

- Some particular treatment for the guitars in the low mid part?

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by S75

- Do you usually record at 24bit and? 44.1 or 96

Nope, usually at 24bit/48kHz

Thank you!!!![/quote]

S75 · 8th July 2008

Thank you!!

BATTLEFIELD · 11th October 2010

I know this is kinda old, but Michael asked what people thought of the album, I bought it and loved it. The way Michael mixes guitars is like no other, the guitars you hear today bore me . vocals as well. Thanks Michael for giving me something to listen to and buy, I havent bought a cd in years... jody from chattanooga.

Cookie · 6th July 2011

stumbled across this thread when I broke out my old STTG album. LOVE the production on that. I bought RPM and it just arrived today. Gonna have a listen after a bit! Also bought Subhuman Race -- heard a couple of tunes off that album years ago, but never bought the cd. Hopefully that arrives soon as well.

Michael's production and mixing always sound great and inspired. . not "factory made" like a lot of stuff. .

BlackBeauty · 6th July 2011

I was in 2 shows in Spain, Madrid and Barcelona, in 2006 when SR was touring. I was the FOH tecnician of a spanish rock band that supported them in both shows.
I remember very well. Their FOH tecnician just used compressors for 4 vocals. Only gates for drums....the player is really tight and amazing in live situation!. The singer didn't get so high as in recording (suffered) but did it well also!
I learnt to play the kick really loud in live!!!

**mwagener** · 8th July 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookie

stumbled across this thread when I broke out my old STTG album. LOVE the production on that. I bought RPM and it just arrived today. Gonna have a listen after a bit! Also bought Subhuman Race -- heard a couple of tunes off that album years ago, but never bought the cd. Hopefully that arrives soon as well.

Michael's production and mixing always sound great and inspired. . not "factory made" like a lot of stuff. .

Thanx guys, we try

Cookie · 12th July 2011

OK, my review of the album RPM (albeit 5 years after its release, haha)

Sounds awesome! I love a few of the songs (especially White Trash). Maybe I can relate? haha. ALOT of attitude in this record, and you can hear that in the performance, recording and mix.

I love how the record sounds and it's especially cool knowing all the details behind it.

I still think STTG is my favorite -- most likely because that record came out when I was a freshman in HS and it blew me away and I used to play along to it all day in my room. (very poorly) mind you. That record is very nostalgic for me.

Anyway, thanks Michael for a great piece of work and it's going to live in my car cd player for quite some time to come!

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12th June 2008	#363
S75 Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 230	Hello Mr Wagener, first of all thank you for sharing all this info!! and congratulation for the great work with SR Reading back this really interesting thread I have some questions: - About Vocal compression (the vox is great), just curious if you have checked STC8 for a similar use of Distressor (really different dynamics from -20 GR at extreme compression at louder parts to light comp in the soft passage). If yes what do you think? - I have seen that you compress 3/4 db with STC8...during mix do you usually use to compress lightly the single tracks and then press the Stc8 considering his 'transparent' feature? - STC: do you use always in dual mono setting? Why? Do you prefer usually the ki mode? - I'm not so familiar with Massive Passive so I cannot compare, but when I have seen the settings (that should be more or less: 80 hz shelf boost - 800 bell boost - 4.7 khz bell boost - 6 khz shelf boost) I was surprise to see the 800 boost and above all the gain values that seem very high about 8/10 db. Some comments? Does it often happen? - I have seen that you use more mics for kick and bass...in which freq do you have usually the crossover points (if you have of course) for them? Do you cut some very low end (20/40 hz) when tracking or mixing? - Some particular treatment for the guitars in the low mid part? - Do you usually record at 24bit and? 44.1 or 96 Thank you!!!!

7th July 2008	#364
S75 Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 230	I Try again! Regards

8th July 2008	#366
S75 Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 230	Thank you!!

11th October 2010	#367
BATTLEFIELD Gear nut Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 117	I know this is kinda old, but Michael asked what people thought of the album, I bought it and loved it. The way Michael mixes guitars is like no other, the guitars you hear today bore me . vocals as well. Thanks Michael for giving me something to listen to and buy, I havent bought a cd in years... jody from chattanooga.

6th July 2011	#368
Cookie Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 513	stumbled across this thread when I broke out my old STTG album. LOVE the production on that. I bought RPM and it just arrived today. Gonna have a listen after a bit! Also bought Subhuman Race -- heard a couple of tunes off that album years ago, but never bought the cd. Hopefully that arrives soon as well. Michael's production and mixing always sound great and inspired. . not "factory made" like a lot of stuff. .

6th July 2011	#369
BlackBeauty Gear nut Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The Mediterranean Posts: 101	I was in 2 shows in Spain, Madrid and Barcelona, in 2006 when SR was touring. I was the FOH tecnician of a spanish rock band that supported them in both shows. I remember very well. Their FOH tecnician just used compressors for 4 vocals. Only gates for drums....the player is really tight and amazing in live situation!. The singer didn't get so high as in recording (suffered) but did it well also! I learnt to play the kick really loud in live!!!

12th July 2011	#371
Cookie Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 513	OK, my review of the album RPM (albeit 5 years after its release, haha) Sounds awesome! I love a few of the songs (especially White Trash). Maybe I can relate? haha. ALOT of attitude in this record, and you can hear that in the performance, recording and mix. I love how the record sounds and it's especially cool knowing all the details behind it. I still think STTG is my favorite -- most likely because that record came out when I was a freshman in HS and it blew me away and I used to play along to it all day in my room. (very poorly) mind you. That record is very nostalgic for me. Anyway, thanks Michael for a great piece of work and it's going to live in my car cd player for quite some time to come!