Pictures Of Mic'ed Up Drum Kits In The Studio

[cjogo]

Originally posted by BattleAngel
dude cjogo,

How much harder would it be to just set up a very small, simple kit, and mic it with two or three mics? I do not understand your fervor for this method of adding percussion to tracks... I think it really takes away from the other performances.

Wish we had the room.~~~....like many other home studios with a small tracking room---many are looking for "alternative" methods for applying drums to their demos. We track with the artist in the room (phones).....so they have the inner action, but with little or no bleed ...and the editing is easy. Our clients are mainly single/duo and do not wish to apply their funds towards a larger studio & mic set-up for real drum kit.

**** but thanks for the response--- the "digital drums" ideas should probably be removed to a totally different thread

[cjogo]

Originally posted by bleen
Dood, how did you get a VS880 in 1990? Don't think they hit the market until '96-'97...

Yeah sorry Bleen , slip of the digits when typing >>> the song was around back then...just not the ROland-
---Bought a lot of early digital systems in the 90's ~~~~~~~ Akai DR4a, Fostex, Emu & even a early Vestax HDR ... -->>>> bought 3 of the very first 880's ... 540megs of HD $2495.00 each >>> OUCH!

[caughtup]

i will need to make a phone call to see if this recording is around. the mics on the tom's were SR69's those TEC award winning babies that eat acoustic sources for lunch... try one and prove me wrong... our FLEX mics are the same capsule and electronics. they are even easier to position on toms cuz.. uh... they are flexible?? har.
peace.. how come every time I post there is this digital drum thing following me.
I've been playing a jazz kit since I was 8 yrs old... now I have some alesis drum machine torn apart in an old cardboard box in my studio along with it's matching sequencer... anybody want it?? It sounds...well....like a bunch of loose stuff in a box if you mic it when you kick it across the room...

Jeff-peace just razzin ya cjogo!!!!

[Knastratt]

Originally posted by heinz
I like playing KAT kits but every time I mic one up all I get is KLAK KLAK KLAK seems like it lacks resonance or something.

No, no!

You shouldn't mic up the KAT. Mic up the AE trying to mic up the KAT and monitor the producer instead. This should produce some kind of shrill sound that, run through an Eventide 3000 would give a loud bop resembling a broken kickdrum. Which you eventually should fix.

You lazy bum!

[Bobalou]

ah boy! back with the kat. bring on the monkey dfegad

[cjogo]

the KLAK is the added bonus click-track metronome with the Kat system



I know "sounds like a cheap machine recorded in a cardboard box"....but just a client wanting to knock out quick tunes in the studio




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ALI

occasionally play a "real" set


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[adamcal]

I was surfing and found some more for anyone who is interested.

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[barforama]

...from a recent session:

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Drumset at Bo J.s Place in Sweden.

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Bo J. uses: B.L.U.E. , Royer, ADK, Earthworks, one SM57 and one D112

Note that each pair of toms has a EW on them, so does the snare in addition to the SM57.

[blackcom]

Originally posted by rcm
This is certianly the most interesting drum micing I have ever done. 4 kick drums, 16 toms, snare and 40 cymbals. I tried to do the whole kick with two mics, but because of the angles things are set up (tiered and in a horse shoe), I had to end up using 11 tracks ;-(

All toms are miced from the bottom because there was no acess or room from the top.

(its Terrry Bozzio if you are wondering)

Hah...get some e604...you could mount them anyware...

[mwagener]

How about "outside" of the studio. This is from our MOAW recording sessions with King's X last weekend


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[adamcal]

By chance do you have a MP3 of those outside drums?, Id love to hear what that sounds like.

[mwagener]

Originally posted by adamcal
By chance do you have a MP3 of those outside drums?, Id love to hear what that sounds like.

Sorry, no soundbites from this session. But it will be on the next King's X CD

[barforama]

All drumtracks on the next album recorded outside?

[cjogo]

OK starting trouble again-- a pic of the band ~~~ playing live...Just finishing the solo from the IRON BUTTERFLY Classic IN- A- GADDA- Di- VIDA >>> right into a CREAM /CLAPTON tune--The TrapKat pads still work for the right venue^^^Rock Classics with Strings.


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[mwagener]

Originally posted by barforama
All drumtracks on the next album recorded outside?

No. This is just part of the song "Allison". We recorded the drums in three different ways:
1) inside the studio with conventional mic setup (close mics and some room mics including Fritz)
2) outside (see picture)
3) back inside with a minimal mic setup (3 mic technique with Fritz added in)
method 1) is going to be used in the INTRO and CHORUSES
method 2) will be used in the VERSES
method 3) is going to be used in the BRIDGE

We also shot video during the recording of this song and I am going to mix "Allison" in surround for a DVD extra witth the album.

It's going to be an interesting mix, to say the least.

[Screws]

Originally posted by mwagener

1) inside the studio with conventional mic setup (close mics and some room mics including Fritz)

I gather that "Fritz" is your binaural head. In the photo it looks like you have the roof support column directly in front of it. Was this to further block the center image?

[mwagener]

Originally posted by Screws
I gather that "Fritz" is your binaural head. In the photo it looks like you have the roof support column directly in front of it. Was this to further block the center image?

Yes, Fritz is the Neumann KU100 binaural head, sorry I have gotten so used to his nickname, I assume everybody calles him that.

Fritz has a little acoustic "hole" right in front of his nose, he doesn't pick up as well directly from the front. I wanted him in the middle of the drumkit, to get a even stereo image and I thought that the pole being off to either side might do worse damage than being in the middle.

[Screws]

I'll bet you got a nice bit of ambience from the roof overhang as well. I remember last year's BBQ conversations under there, and the fellowship of slutz was warm as the afternoon sun. I imagine the drum sound benefitted from the same kind of warmth.

Enjoy your day and best jealous wishes to all.

[studjo]

Not as nice as Michaels set up - but the session was really fun.

btw next time my girlfriend has to take the pics

[studjo]

another one

[studjo]

btw mics used:

Kick out - Royer 121 with pop shield
Kick in - EV RE20
Snare - SM 57
Hat - KM 184
Toms - AT 4050
OH - Beyer M160
Ride - KM184
Room - MS: M=U87 / S=MKH80

that's about it

Jo

[De chromium cob]

Heres a recent one-
Beyer 260s with DX77 ribbon mod for overheads
421 on toms
D112 on kick
57 on snare with 451 on bottom snare
U47 as whole kit mic
Crown PZM taped to floor behind drummer
shure bullet as trash mic

[De chromium cob]

Another pic of the same kit (DW) with the clouds and mountains in the backround.....

[RoundBadge]

Man, I just love tracking rooms with views.Yours is veery nice!!