Actually, it sounds exactly like what Eddie and I wanted them to be.
Real~!
Mic'ing drums from this distance let's them breathe, and all the sounds from the individual drums blend together, so they sound exactly like they do in the the room. As long as you are happy with the sound in your room, you are good to go.
Obviously, we only got away with this in my small room because we had already tracked the 3 guitars, upright bass, and scratch vocals to a click before hand. Eddie then played drums to these tracks...
And I'm glad we did.
It's amazing how good, no GREAT, drums sound when recorded like this.
Here's a project I'm currently working on. The band is called The Electric Playground from Detroit, MI. They play some good ol' Detroit rock. We were going for a really raw and dark sound on the drums for this piece so...we ended up tracking in the garage! I had my hesitations at first with the tracking space but really ended up diggin' the sounds we got. There's some leakage from the bass amp and a little bit of screaming in the background but here's the set up:
Kick In - RE320
Kick Out - GAP TC1
Snare -57
Overheads - Studio Projects C4 (omni)
Room - C414 XLS (omni)
All going into a Focusrite Liquid 56. Used mostly Waves SSL and API plugins for processing and a little Oxford transient designing and verb.
Okay! Here we go, clips from the session...The second day we switched out the 421's in favor of a pair of Joly-Modded Oktava 012's - definitely a good choice!
The clips are (in order,) First tune - no processing on kit, first tune with healthy amounts of The Glue and Bricasti impulse responses, a snippet of the working mix, the second tune we worked on in that session (with Oktavas on toms)
Cheeers!
Sounds great.
I do a very similar thing with a RK bass drum in front, but only have one of the Coles. love to get another and try that position in stereo like you did.
nice job.
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We also ran a paralell feed of the B&O crunch mic into a Little Labs re-amper box and fed this out to an Audio Kitchen Amp with Marshall 4 x 12 in the corridor, then distance miked the corridor with 2 x 57s recorded with :
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Nice.
How better/different is this than using an amp plug?
Any way to solo that track and post it?
Sounds great.
I do a very similar thing with a RK bass drum in front, but only have one of the Coles. love to get another and try that position in stereo like you did.
nice job.
Thanks mate! It was a bit of a pain, phase-wise. Had to delay my spot mics to get them to sit well. Love having the extra kick as well - it adds some really interesting depth to the tone of the kick. If you ever do the position in stereo, be aware that ypu'll have to be very attuned to stereo imaging, as blumlein is quite wide sounding, and you could very well end up with all the attack of your kick drum in one channel, and it's a right pain to have to correct!
That's drummer Bernie Dresel, warming up for a young Disney Artist basic tracks session. George Doering will be sitting in the chairs, playing guitar, (amps in the iso booth).
front of the kit - AKG C414B-ULS in MS
bass drum - AKG D112
bass drum resonant side - Beyerdynamic M201
snare drum - MD441
floor tom - Beyerdynamic M88
hi-hat - AKG C451EB
ride - Josephson C42 (there is M160 on the photo but it was murky, so switched to Josephson)
ambient - 2 x Coles 4038
no overheads
FOK went into SCA N72s and everything else into Audient ASP008
Recorded live with guitar so there is little bleed in the tracks
sounds pretty nice but the tuning could be better especially on the kick drum...
Funny you mention that cause 2 weeks ago I did a session with no overhead as well.
Close mics on everything and a XY + mono front of kit and large AB room mics. It sounded great.
I also had the opportunity to make a AB test between a 421 and a CAD M179 on toms, I use 421 all the time at the studio I work at but at home I use the M179 and never compared them before, the M179 won, way less bleed and better tone overall.
I also had the opportunity to make a AB test between a 421 and a CAD M179 on toms, I use 421 all the time at the studio I work at but at home I use the M179 and never compared them before, the M179 won, way less bleed and better tone overall.
Hell yes they did! I use them on toms, kick, and sometimes snare. Love em!
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Late 70's Ludwig kit. He switched between Gretsch & Ludwig rack toms, & 2 Supras. One was brass. Killed me.
akg d200e inside kick
bk5 out side
414 TL2 and 56 top snare
57 bottom snare
451's overs and hat
Earthworks over high center
Beta 98 rack
re 20 floor
87 pair rooms
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Late 70's Ludwig kit. He switched between Gretsch & Ludwig rack toms, & 2 Supras. One was brass. Killed me.
akg d200e inside kick
bk5 out side
414 TL2 and 56 top snare
57 bottom snare
451's overs and hat
Earthworks over high center
Beta 98 rack
re 20 floor
87 pair rooms
Nice ,love my d200's and bk5 but never tried them in your configuration ,may have to.
Funny you mention that cause 2 weeks ago I did a session with no overhead as well.
Close mics on everything and a XY + mono front of kit and large AB room mics. It sounded great.
I also had the opportunity to make a AB test between a 421 and a CAD M179 on toms, I use 421 all the time at the studio I work at but at home I use the M179 and never compared them before, the M179 won, way less bleed and better tone overall.
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