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Old 9th April 2006   #1
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When mixing on an SSL 4000 E series...

For each channel/card/module, there are two sets of faders which can be mixed from, essentially doubling the amount of possible mix inputs.

My question is, can you assign the dynamics to one fader and the EQ section to the other fader of that same module or are those two functions tied and/or tied to just the mix fader?

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G`ood question .. its beenn so long - I forget. My guess is that you cant split eq & dynamics between "BIG" and "LITTLE" faders
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Dity Halo,
yes you can mix and match: basically withing the eq, you have a sub-section, being the two filters, which can be assigned separately as well. dynamics pre or post eq.
There are some limitations based on the options you pick: when the eq is in the channel path, the filters cannot be in the monitor path. But when the eq is in the monitor path you can use the filters in the channel path if you like.
You can also separate the filters from both paths and assign them to the dynamic side-chain.
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yes you can.

and when in record funtion as well you can assign the the dynamics to be in the input or out put and where in the signal path and in which order pre eq or post
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(in mix mode, the small faders are the 'monitor path'. as long as you have those routed to LF/RF in the group assignment network, they'll show up in your 2 mix. then the channel & monitor path selection button next to each section determines which path=fader the section is assigned to.)
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Thanks all... my custom SSL 4000 E 16 channel hybrid project

I'm woring on a custome 16 channel SSL 4000 E Series, sort of a summing console hybrid and will be micing with all 32 outs, obbvisouly using all 16 channels of dynamics and then outboard on the other, but may want to put the EQ on those channels without dynamics, for example, a small fade channel with EQ, but an LA-2A on it or the other eay around...

Anyway, this all helps and it'll be...is an interesting project.

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You can place the filters, dynamics and eq pretty much wherever you want on an SSL 4000E.

The filters follow the eq unless you press the split button, which splits them off an places them in the channel path just after the input section.

As for the dynamics, pressing the MON switch will place them in the monitor path. Pressing the CH OUT switch will place them in the channel path post-eq, while CH IN will place them in the channel path pre-eq. If the eq is not engaged, there is no difference between CH OUT and CH IN for the dynamics.

EQ can either be in the channel path or the monitor path by pressing CH or MON respectively.

It gets more complicated when you start to integrate the side chain, but hopefully that helps.
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If you want I have a E-series manual sitting next to me. I would be happy to copy off some pages for you.
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I'm woring on a custome 16 channel SSL 4000 E Series, sort of a summing console hybrid and will be micing with all 32 outs, obbvisouly using all 16 channels of dynamics and then outboard on the other, but may want to put the EQ on those channels without dynamics, for example, a small fade channel with EQ, but an LA-2A on it or the other eay around...

Just to let you know, you can't assign the insert to the monitor path. You can however patch it on the bay. Tape Return --> La2a or whatever --> Monitor In.

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the department of redundancy department called and said cut it out.
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my post was new and informative, thank you very much.
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THANK YOU!

Actually ALL these posts were exactly what I needed and even some perfect info that I didn't know I needed, but is critical for a particular need, thank you. Truly.

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and things getting even more interesting if you press "rec" and "mix" buttons simultaneous.. If you press then "rec ready" or "group ready" on a channel, only this channel is set into "rec" status while all others stay in "mix" status...
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That sounds quite interesting. If you are using the small faders for additional input channels, can you seperate the pan (on the small fader channel) if you are using the main channel at the same time ?
the small fader gets to the quad bus through the routing matrix so you use those assignment switches and pan knob for panning those signals.
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Is your center section status assigned to Mix mode?

If wired to spec, your multitrack returns will feed both faders simultaneously in mix mode, so to double your input capacity when mixing, you will be x-patching into one of the paths. You do need to engage the small fader pan. What specifically do you mean by "can't seem to seperate the small pan from the main channel (while running the two a the same time). "
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Ok, That sounds great. So you don't have to have each channel specially modded/wired slightly ? I tried it this morning, but I can't seem to seperate the small pan from the main channel (while running the two a the same time).

Could you explain it in a bit more detail?

Thanks again!

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On the top of the channel strip there's a small pan pot (right under the routing matrix). You will need to engage this, and use it for your small fader pan in mix mode. Also, in the routing matrix make sure you are sending to your proper busses.
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