High-end compressor recommend needed!

[Dirty Halo]

For outboard compressors, I have (not for 2-buss, using a SSL G384 for that):

1. Emperical Labs Fatso.
2. Alan Smart C2
3. Avalon 747sp (thinking about upgrading withthe babyface mode and putting Telefunken tubes in it... or should I sell it?)
4. Manley Vox box
5. LA-2A (vintage)

So, what those, what pair of compressors would compliment that set?

Oh, pres, I have pairs of VintechX73s, B.A.E 312s, Manley Vox.

Would you recommend a pre.compressor combo instead?

Thanks guys.

-andrews

DIRTY HALO www.dirtyhalo.com

[Lindell]

For vocals: Summit TLA100, Daking, Buzz SOC, Gyraf G10
For drums: Valley People Dynamite, Buzz SOC, Neve 33609
For bass: Buzz SOC, Daking, Neve 33609

[superburtm]

You need an 1176

[aevan]

Originally Posted by superburtm

You need an 1176

No, you need 2
I've heard good things about the Shadow Hills mastering comp, but haven't heard one in person yet.

[piano]

What's the deal with the Summit TLA everyone keeps talking about?

[superburtm]

Originally Posted by piano

What's the deal with the Summit TLA everyone keeps talking about?

I have a Summit TLA 100..I have had it for like 10 years now..it's cool.very smooth sounding good for smoothing out vocals without imparting to much of a sound. It's ok on snare too and bass as well.

[H-Rezz]

Originally Posted by piano

What's the deal with the Summit TLA everyone keeps talking about?

You mean besides the fact that it's a great comp!

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by superburtm

You need an 1176

...and a La2a.

[superburtm]

I'm thinking about selling my Summit TLA100 so if you'd like make me an offer

[RoundBadge]

Originally Posted by aevan

No, you need 2
I've heard good things about the Shadow Hills mastering comp, but haven't heard one in person yet.

Better yet, grab 2 Purple MC 77's..F* cking Great compressors!..
.. many prefer[myself included] them to the best of the much coveted rev D originals
stike


RE: Shadow hills.Actually no one has heard it except for the designer and about three other people at Vintage King.
God willing,you will hear some real reviews on it soon thoughthumbsup

[Dirty Halo]

Oh, I DO also have a vintage LA-2A...so that's covered. Thanks for the reminder Thrill.

As for the Purples, that was my thinking.

You guys think a pair of 1176 (ish) compressors is the next best all around choice? How about for drums, etc?

-a

[doorknocker]

If you want hi-end then you can't go wrong with a NTP 179-170. Super-smooth and a total no-brainer for tracking vocals.

I paid a staggering $ 100 for mine that came from Swiss National Radio that decided to 'upgrade' their gear....

[robmix]

A pair of Purples or a pair of Dakings will do you just fine.

[RoundBadge]

Originally Posted by Dirty Halo

As for the Purples, that was my thinking.
How about for drums, etc?

-a

Purples=Great for anything drum related..thumbsup
But yes, they sound good on everything.
I wish I had 8 of em'.

[innesireinar]

Guys, but speaking about LA-2A or 1176 what are you referring to?
The original units or various reissues (UA etc.)?
And if you are referiing to the originals, how good can be 40 (or more) years old electronic components?

[Dirty Halo]

Originally Posted by innesireinar

Guys, but speaking about LA-2A or 1176 what are you referring to?
The original units or various reissues (UA etc.)?
And if you are referiing to the originals, how good can be 40 (or more) years old electronic components?

Now you've done it, especially on THIS board!

All you have to do is look at 99% of the gear made today and then look at 99% of the gear talked about, wanted, sought and bought today and you have your answer...

Why are we all talking about the finer points of a Neve 1073 module (not to mention even the best of the best clones or today's "Neve") still not being as good as some of the older ones) or why is there so much debate and hassle over the Toft ATB that struggles to reclaim the glory of an old Trident 80B.

My guess, most of today's gear is GC, low-end user focused. You do have a few high-end designers and makers today, but we're talking small operations. The big Mackies of the world are not creating product that is going to be debated like an old Neve 1073 module or orignal 1176...

And the final answer to your question should be asked to UA. Why are they trying so hard to capture a sound their father made so long ago...and still can't seem to get right?

-a

[mac black]

Without a shadow of a doubt- Phoenix by thermionic culture . Amazing on 2 buss drums, vocals, bass .... Its the magic box!

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by Dirty Halo

Oh, I DO also have a vintage LA-2A...so that's covered. Thanks for the reminder Thrill.

As for the Purples, that was my thinking.

You guys think a pair of 1176 (ish) compressors is the next best all around choice? How about for drums, etc?

-a

Personally if it were me i would dump the Voxbox and keep the C2.

[Bat Head Sound]

Tube-Tech SMC-2B. That thing sounds awesome. Plus it's different than any of the compressors that you already have. The Thermionic Culture Phoenix would also be a good choice, as would a Pendulum ES-8. But it also despends on you budget and what you want to use it for. Also, +1 for the Purple.

[studjo]

Originally Posted by Lindell

For vocals: Summit TLA100, Daking, Buzz SOC, Gyraf G10
For drums: Valley People Dynamite, Buzz SOC, Neve 33609
For bass: Buzz SOC, Daking, Neve 33609

if you check that statement you realize that you'll defenitely a Buzz SOC!



and I really support that statement.




Jo

[Dirty Halo]

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

Personally if it were me i would dump the Voxbox and keep the C2.

Dump the Vox Box? Really. What do ypu think of the EQ section though? I sort of think it is like the Pultec but unique and good for vocals, even if I'm not using the pre or compressor part. But if you have a seperate recommendation for that, I'm interested.

Curious what you think of the EQ on the Manley vox box... or otherwise?

-a

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by Dirty Halo

Dump the Vox Box? Really. What do ypu think of the EQ section though? I sort of think it is like the Pultec but unique and good for vocals, even if I'm not using the pre or compressor part. But if you have a seperate recommendation for that, I'm interested.

Curious what you think of the EQ on the Manley vox box... or otherwise?

-a

I had a pair years ago and got rid of them.


I thought the EQ was useful on somethings and useless on others.


The best feature i felt was the D.I. which has a great sound.

[Dirty Halo]

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

I had a pair years ago and got rid of them.


I thought the EQ was useful on somethings and useless on others.


The best feature i felt was the D.I. which has a great sound.

What would be very good, pure a simple EQ for tracking vocals that you'd recommend then? Or no EQ when tracking? If no on tracking then SSL E series EQ on mixing? (If I'm remembering correctly, you work on a E series...of sorts)

-a

[theom]

It's nice to have a fast comp and a slow comp for tracking.

the distressor will do both, but I like:

Slow:

original LA2a
Original La3a with the 1 resistor mod and 600 Ohm buid out
TLA 100 summit, I've worked with good ones and shitty ones, tube issues I guess


Fast:
Purple 1176
Daking fet
Blackface original 1176


I hear great things about the pendulum stuff.

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by Dirty Halo

What would be very good, pure a simple EQ for tracking vocals that you'd recommend then? Or no EQ when tracking? If no on tracking then SSL E series EQ on mixing? (If I'm remembering correctly, you work on a E series...of sorts)

-a

These days i rarely track vocals with EQ.

The rare times i do its a Pultec or the EQ section of a Neve 1073/1084 to add a little "air" to a boring singer/microphone.

[doogie]

What about the Cranesong Trakker?

[kjcoral]

Originally Posted by Dirty Halo

For outboard compressors, I have (not for 2-buss, using a SSL G384 for that):

1. Emperical Labs Fatso.
2. Alan Smart C2
3. Avalon 747sp (thinking about upgrading withthe babyface mode and putting Telefunken tubes in it... or should I sell it?)
4. Manley Vox box
5. LA-2A (vintage)

So, what those, what pair of compressors would compliment that set?

Oh, pres, I have pairs of VintechX73s, B.A.E 312s, Manley Vox.

Would you recommend a pre.compressor combo instead?

Thanks guys.

-andrews

DIRTY HALO www.dirtyhalo.com

it seems i'm always recommending old stuff but i think your set-up might benefit from a pair of original DBX 160VU's. there's not a day goes by that i don't use those suckers on something and they always sound great. i believe george martin once called them "indespensible."

my two cents...

p.s.- i'm only in my 30's, btw! i'm not an old-timer, just love old-time gear...

[superburtm]

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p.s.- i'm only in my 30's, btw! i'm not an old-timer, just love old-time gear...[/QUOTE]


sure you are

[kjcoral]

Originally Posted by superburtm

sure you are

as madeline kahn once said, "it's twoo, it's twoo!"

[A101]

Originally Posted by doogie

What about the Cranesong Trakker?

Yeah really!

It is a skinny slick guy with a fat voice…
…and look you can even get close to emulating many of the comps listed on this thread.