Using the Hedd as a plug-in insert someone said?

[inthecorner]

Hi there, I heard there is a way to use the hedd as a fx channel insert in a sequencer. The wording fails me so if anyone has any idea what I am talking about pls help me out on how to do that. Ofcourse it's not me saying it but another mix&mastering engineer that told me so. He says u make the hedd a object or something in sonar and then u can use it as plug-in fx. I obviously would want to do it with logic. Is this myth or is there madness to the method? Sho

[Strut78]

The only way I am aware of is to use the hedd as a digital insert, so you can run audio in and out of it digitally and switch the process to d/d.

[deft_bonz]

No myth. It works like strut78 already wrote.

You need one digital out and one digital in (SPDIF or AES) on your computer. You send the signal from Logic to the HEDD and come back into Logic.

I think Logic 8 & 9 have hardware inserts (never used them though). If not or you use an older version, you'd need an extra channel where the signal's coming back in.

Be aware of the delay. Check that out.

[inthecorner]

Thanks guys for the reply's. How I've been working with the hedd is dropping a mix on a channel, then setting that channel's output to digital out (aes/EBU) leading into the hedd. Then right below that channel I open another channel and set it's input to digital in (aes/EBU) coming from the hedd. The channel is then armed and it's output set to output 1-2 which then plays back via my mytek dac to my monitoring system. (the hedd is set to digital obviously) This works great for applying the hedd to certain trax while mixing, even though u have to record any channel u want to process. But what I am asking here is can one have a plug-in that u insert onto a channel and then u route the plug internally to apply the fx of the hedd onto that channel without having to open two channels and and arm the second? Do I make sense?

[Strut78]

Normally you can route a hardware insert in the daw and then use it as a plugin, it is easy enough to sort Out in the I/o setup if you are using protools, but it will be specific to your daw. Most can be configured to do this.

[inthecorner]

Originally Posted by Strut78

Normally you can route a hardware insert in the daw and then use it as a plugin, it is easy enough to sort Out in the I/o setup if you are using protools, but it will be specific to your daw. Most can be configured to do this.

Now we are getting to the heart of the plot.... I wonder if I can find more info on this in the logic help file...hmmm....???...let me check...

[inthecorner]

I've tried this plug for the task. As u can see from the pic, it sets input and output of a channel and it also has built in latency compensation features.... Still doesn't seem to be my solution...

[crille_mannen]

A little bit out of the OP but...

Can you do the same with the Spider? Set the output on a track in PT go through the spider line in, using the Spiders Tape emulation then back in via the Spiders ADAT A/D for instance? The spider don't have any D/A

[inthecorner]

Originally Posted by inthecorner

I've tried this plug for the task. As u can see from the pic, it sets input and output of a channel and it also has built in latency compensation features.... Still doesn't seem to be my solution...

Ok the logic plug I/O turned out to be my solution. Just routed it out digitally and set the input to digital and bob's your uncle, I now can apply the hedd and external compression inside the logic session I'm busy with, without having to bounce the mix out. I do however have to bounce in realtime which really sucks but hey thats the trade off I guess of using outboard stuff.

[deft_bonz]

Originally Posted by inthecorner

I do however have to bounce in realtime which really sucks but hey thats the trade off I guess of using outboard stuff.

That was obvious to begin with

How nice this dream is: mix analog, but print the track to stereo with 10x times the speed by just hitting the bounce button

You may try this: Play the track at double speed and +1 octave, records at 88.2 khz and then take the sampling rate down to 44.1 khz