Mic for vocals

[Kultjoe]

Originally Posted by zlna

go with the jz blackohle
somthing that you cant close your mouth ! ?

+1

[chessparov]

evilrocker, whatever happened with your TLM67? FWIW that mic un-
EQ'd IMHO edges out a U87ai on my voice. I still think that model is somewhat underated at GS-partly as it has the "dreaded" TLM moniker.

Chris

P.S. Also felt the 102, given its price tag as a Neumann, is quite a bang for buck.

[evilrocker]

Originally Posted by chessparov

evilrocker, whatever happened with your TLM67? FWIW that mic un-
EQ'd IMHO edges out a U87ai on my voice. I still think that model is somewhat underated at GS-partly as it has the "dreaded" TLM moniker.

Chris

P.S. Also felt the 102, given its price tag as a Neumann, is quite a bang for buck.

:D never had the oportunity to try out that mic yet, ill see if i can do that. But api 525 does magic to all mics!

[evilrocker]

wtf I'm still on a quest trying to find a mic, feels like this is a restart. Don't wanna go through all the Neumanns again, even though I never tried the TLM67... Might bring in a Mojave MA-200 for a spin and see what it can do for me. I also want it to work as OH, cause I noticed how much I loved the b-uls on drum room duties so now I need to fill that gap also.

[iziphonics]

If you liked Manley, try Brauner's mics. for 3k$ you can get tube Velvet that I like much more than Reference Gold.

[legato]

Edit:
Sorry, I misread the original post. Have to go now, but I'll try to make up for it later.

[evilrocker]

I will check thx, btw when ppl talk abouth smooth mids in mics, what frequency range are they refering to?

[littlesicily]

Soundelux e49

[evilrocker]

I have a peluso p-67 here for testing now, like it very much!

[littlesicily]

Originally Posted by evilrocker

I have a peluso p-67 here for testing now, like it very much!

What else do you have to shoot it out against?

[evilrocker]

Originally Posted by littlesicily

What else do you have to shoot it out against?

Nothing left except my pairs of 414 uls and XLII.
These mics are all from different stores.

[Sqye]

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If you want something more natural sounding, you might want to try the Manley Cardioid Reference Microphone.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/deta...FYZM4Aod3CoAUA

I personally prefer more hyped highs.

But the Card Ref is natural and detailed. Some rock singers and producers/engineers love it. Might work for you.

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[evilrocker]

Originally Posted by Sqye

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If you want something more natural sounding, you might want to try the Manley Cardioid Reference Microphone.

Manley Reference Cardioid Microphone (Regular Edition) | Sweetwater.com

I personally prefer more hyped highs.

But the Card Ref is natural and detailed. Some rock singers and producers/engineers love it. Might work for you.

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I have already tried that one, it rocks! But I really think it is too much money for one mic. That is the reason why I returned it!

And the Peluso P67 is somewhat bright... I dont remember exactly how bright the Manley was, shame I didnt save the recordings I did with it :(

[evilrocker]

I really like the sound of the P67 but I never owned such bright mic before and I dont know why Im suspicious... I always brighten up the vocals with my api 5500 anyway... now I dont have to. Why are so many in to dark mics and then boosting them with eq? Isnt a bright mic perfect? It almost needs no eq at all.

[Sqye]

Originally Posted by evilrocker

I have already tried that one, it rocks! But I really think it is too much money for one mic. That is the reason why I returned it!

And the Peluso P67 is somewhat bright... I dont remember exactly how bright the Manley was, shame I didnt save the recordings I did with it :(

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Agreed. My favorite mic cost me 1/10th the price.

Groove Tubes GT-67. Tube multi-pattern large diaphragm condenser. Freeking rocks.

There's one on e-bay now. Probably too bright for you, though.

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[kafka]

Originally Posted by Sqye

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Agreed. My favorite mic cost me 1/10th the price.

Groove Tubes GT-67. Tube multi-pattern large diaphragm condenser. Freeking rocks.

There's one on e-bay now. Probably too bright for you, though.

OK, so you and I are definitely the GT-67 fanboiz here on GS. I have a pair of them, and love them. But, do you think they're bright? I've always thought of them as fairly "thick" mics. Honestly, I haven't used mine in a while, so I kind of forget exactly how it sounds, at least compared to the other mics I've been using.

Anyway, I totally agree with you that the GT-67 is a sleeper, and probably about the only LDC you can get for anywhere near that price that's worth bothering with.

Glad I've got my pair, because once you and I hype them up, they'll become unobtainium. :-)

[iprovlek]

DIY G7 with 2k2 on tube feedback for fine tunning tube...

[Blast9]

You mentioned "pop rock" - Might be worth checking out the Kel Audio Song Sparrow - smooth airy FET mic in the "C12-ish" family with an HF rise from 10K up to 12K (?)

It definitely doesn't have that 2-3K upper mids push, and is not harsh at all - no upper mid weirdness.

Quite flat in the mids, not thick, but not thin either.

You can get some nice warmth when you get in close

[Omega Arts]

I just got a Beesneez Arabella and it solved a lot of sibilance problems especially on my voice.
Great mic. I don't use any compression going down.

[gearjones]

Originally Posted by evilrocker

wtf I'm still on a quest trying to find a mic, feels like this is a restart. Don't wanna go through all the Neumanns again, even though I never tried the TLM67... Might bring in a Mojave MA-200 for a spin and see what it can do for me. I also want it to work as OH, cause I noticed how much I loved the b-uls on drum room duties so now I need to fill that gap also.

I wonder what you'll think about the MA-200. Might be worthwhile for you to check out. I have one and like it. I like it a lot on acoustic guitar as well. I don't use it for overhead although I know some people love it there. I only have one not a stereo pair. Lately I've used it as a drum room mic and it's cool for that.

I see you're in Sweden. Have you tried any Swedish mics like a Milab?

[evilrocker]

Originally Posted by Blast9

You mentioned "pop rock" - Might be worth checking out the Kel Audio Song Sparrow - smooth airy FET mic in the "C12-ish" family with an HF rise from 10K up to 12K (?)

It definitely doesn't have that 2-3K upper mids push, and is not harsh at all - no upper mid weirdness.

Quite flat in the mids, not thick, but not thin either.

You can get some nice warmth when you get in close

Thx will check it out! :D

[evilrocker]

Originally Posted by gearjones

I wonder what you'll think about the MA-200. Might be worthwhile for you to check out. I have one and like it. I like it a lot on acoustic guitar as well. I don't use it for overhead although I know some people love it there. I only have one not a stereo pair. Lately I've used it as a drum room mic and it's cool for that.

I see you're in Sweden. Have you tried any Swedish mics like a Milab?

Ive done some reading on the DC-196, interesting! Thx

[evilrocker]

I really liked the Peluso p67, but is there similar sounding mic, but with a little less top end, its just a tad too bright. And no dont suggest a real u67 because I dont want to pay so much money for old stuff.

[littlesicily]

Originally Posted by evilrocker

for old stuff.

Haha... that "old stuff" still kicks "new stuff's" ass.

[littlesicily]

Seriously, get an ADK Custom Shop 67 mic... CS-67 "L" (ludhall transformer) is what I have and it sounds fantastic, not overly bright at all, great detail and mids. I compared it to my u67 and with eq can get them pretty close in timbre.

The saturation is a bit different, probably due to the transformer and tube... maybe other things.

[automatom]

Trying to grasp what you're aiming for... is it a mic that is smooth into the highs? Reading back there seems to be a lot of flipping between tube and solid-state mics. The better tube mics have the smoother highs IMO. Solid-state mics, even the best, can etch out the details in the high-mids so much that the ear is inevitably drawn to that area of the sound. Frequently they are scooped in such a way, for me, as to emphasise this.

The tubes you've tested seem to be ones that display uncharacteristic pushed highs. For me, my favourite vocal mics are balanced, rich tube microphones. The best ones that display highs do so very smoothly (The C12 or UM900.) Looking at you price range, I personally think you should try a Brauner Valvet X. Just classy sounding. Find a dealer, try it out. Good luck!

[fhames]

I just received a Microtech Geffel 92.1s. It is very even and balanced on acoustic gtr. Have not used it on anything else yet. Looking forward to putting box and piano through it.

[littlesicily]

Originally Posted by fhames

I just received a Microtech Geffel 92.1s. It is very even and balanced on acoustic gtr. Have not used it on anything else yet. Looking forward to putting box and piano through it.

Best thing about that mic is the M7 cap. Really nice.

[AwTAC]

UM 92 is a really special mic.

[evilrocker]

Now I have tried the TLM67 and TLM49, didn't like them that much. My god this is stupid, after trying something like Manley ref c everything else sounds just ok. Maybe Peluso P-12?