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17th September 2011
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| Gear Guru  Joined: Oct 2004 Location: The Land of Sunshine
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I don't do parallel *anything* in the box, not even fx sends... insidious phase smear! Once my ears became attuned to that unique daw parallel-processed phase hash, there was no getting around it. Drums and vocals suffer the most. Gregory Scott - ubk
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17th September 2011
| #32 |
| Lives for gear  Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 518
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I agree about the ITB phase hash. FX sends are unavoidable for me, because I just don't have enough hardware fx, and because I need the recall for work, but there's no question that when I do even a sloppy A/B of out of the box vs. ITB hardware still sounds better. But... Computers are catching up!
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17th September 2011
| #33 |
| Gear Head Joined: Jan 2011
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Which DAWs? I assumed that plugin delay compensation in modern DAWs was sample accurate. Have I been messing things up using all this time ?  |
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17th September 2011
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| Gear Guru Joined: Oct 2004 Location: The Land of Sunshine
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It's not necessarily a matter of latency, I'm not a dsp guru so I don't claim to know the "why's" of digital sonics. What I know is that anytime I have signal A and it is subjected to dsp process B via a separate bus, subsequent summing of A + B induces problems that to my ears sound like phasing + smearing, especially of the highest registers. On a console, I can mult a signal into 5 compressors and bring them all back in to a single bus, they merge like they were never apart. With digital, my experience mirrors DanGo: it's sounds better when the processing and blending occur at the same time in the same plugin. Gregory Scott - ubk | |
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17th September 2011
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| Gear maniac  Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Stockholm
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I am very curious to use the drawmer da6 to split the 2bus out into 6 stereo pairs for further parallell procrssing. --> then of course into some mixer. Anyone experience with this setup or some similar device/tool to achieve this?
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17th September 2011
| #36 |
| Gear maniac Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Stockholm
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...and in addition to Gregorys post I was recently a bit amazed by the openess and general (good) sonics when I listened to a recording I made with just the raw tracks and no subs. ...and also very liltle plugs I might add. ( Gainstaging usually fine.)
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27th September 2011
| #37 |
| Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 518
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Ok, Greg, now I'm reading that you, Mr. Analogue, are putting out a plugin that looks like it'll be fantastic... But, how about parallel compression with it? Still smearing? Or will you build that function in?
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27th September 2011
| #38 | |
| Lives for gear  Joined: May 2010 Location: Queens, NY
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Regards, Frank
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27th September 2011
| #39 |
| Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 518
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Hey Frank, that does sound awesome! Looking forward to test driving it.
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