Eventide Harmonizers pitch/time/harmonizing

[TAXS]

After reading a lot on the Internet about The H8000(fw) in relation with pitch/time fix, aligning en harmonizing (pitch shifters) I found myself sad to read, that there are not much eventide harmonizer users who truly work on vocals on a daily based something with this range of Eventide units.

No success stories about mix egineers/producers who have good expierence
with this unit used specially for specific asked vocal techniques, so far.

But I believe that they are there somewhere. Any people out here on GS who have does expierence of pitch/time/aliging,harmonizing correction on vocalsprojects & also compaired it to the software alternatives like autotune/melodyne?

People with serious mixing gear facilities & expierence who have any commentz on the lower standing questions & would like to share there thoughts? Thank U very much.

Details:
H8000(FW),H7600 (& Orville; altough its a bit older model):
All & only for vocals, and only the preset/algothimes options (no Vsig).

1. How are the pitch & time correction presets/algohrimes of this unit compaired to the nowdays: Melodyne,variaudio,autotune & wavetune tools?
Better results? Or likewise results or? Most interest in the artifacts story.

Corrections with a max of 200 cents for pitch en 20-30 bpm differents to the orignal file max. for timing/time fix.

2. How are the pitch shift (creating new harmonies: 3th,5th choirs etc) compaired to the mentiod alternatives? Again the artifacts stories.

3. How are the doubler aligning options in this unit, compaired to (for instance) Vocalign of likewise software tools?

[MFPhouse]

Originally Posted by TAXS

All & only for vocals, and only the preset/algothimes options (no Vsig).

Forget it, Eventide without Vsig is a Porsche with Bicycle tires.

1. How are the pitch & time correction presets/algohrimes of this unit compaired to the nowdays: Melodyne,variaudio,autotune & wavetune tools?
Better results? Or likewise results or? Most interest in the artifacts story.

Don´t try to compare them with Eventide.
Eventide has an other Thinking. I think you didn´t understand this Maschines.
Yes, Eventide can PitchShifting and do it good.

Corrections with a max of 200 cents for pitch en 20-30 bpm differents to the orignal file max. for timing/time fix.

Eventide has a special Algorithmen named Ultra-Shifter, witch gives very goog Results.

2. How are the pitch shift (creating new harmonies: 3th,5th choirs etc) compaired to the mentiod alternatives? Again the artifacts stories.

Here , later in the Mix you can hear a Double_bass with ThreeVoice Diatonik PitchShifter.
******//soundcloud.com/mfphouse/doublebass-eventide-h8000fw

The Same with Guitar
Eventide H8000fw Lexicon JamMan Lexicon 300 E-MU E4XT Ultra. - YouTube

3. How are the doubler aligning options in this unit, compaired to (for instance) Vocalign of likewise software tools?

Is this a trick question ?

[TAXS]

Thank U very much for your input.
Like to get more commenz & expierence based on my questions.

[Kiwi]

Pitch shifting - to do it extremely well - is very CPU intensive and is best not done in realtime. That's were software can do it better. For example, Melodyne only appears to work in realtime, but in reality it is all done by offline rendering.

So a hardware device, no matter how good, is going to be limited to realtime.

And as for time-based vocal alignment - I agree that this sounds like a trick question. A realtime hardware unit can only delay stuff ... what happens if you need to shift stuff forward ...

I would be interested to hear who uses Eventide for harmonies. I use TC Voice Live 2, digitally (because the preamp sucks) and I like it very much. I trigger the harmony voices with midi notes. The automatic chord detection stuff works ok, but I like full control.

I am assuming that Eventide was good in the day, but competition may have surpassed them now ...

[jessicasy]

Originally Posted by MFPhouse

Forget it, Eventide without Vsig is a Porsche with Bicycle tires.
Don´t try to compare them with Eventide.
Eventide has an other Thinking. I think you didn´t understand this Maschines.
Yes, Eventide can PitchShifting and do it good.
Eventide has a special Algorithmen named Ultra-Shifter, witch gives very goog Results.
Here , later in the Mix you can hear a Double_bass with ThreeVoice Diatonik PitchShifter.
******//soundcloud.com/mfphouse/doublebass-eventide-h8000fw

The Same with Guitar
Eventide H8000fw Lexicon JamMan Lexicon 300 E-MU E4XT Ultra. - YouTube
Is this a trick question ?

thank you very much for this informative tips...i am expecting for more input very educative!