7th July 2011
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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Lauten Oceanus, Peluso P-67, thoughts?
Looking at the slightly lower-priced tube LDC's, specifically ones voiced for a flatter, neutral tone. These two stand out to me, and I was wondering if anyone out there has had the opportunity to try them both, next to each other or under similar circumstances.
I'm not "In want of a 67 sound" so we don't have to go down that road, just looking for a nice tubed LDC with neutral response, yet maintaining clarity.
If you have any other ideas in the pricerange (>$1500-2000) shout em out. (Please don't say neutral and MA200 in the same sentence, though;-).
Thanks!
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7th July 2011
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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Don't know the Peluso. The Oceanus rocks. It's not a gooey tube-y sound, just really nice and classy.
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8th July 2011
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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The ADK TC-67Au is a wonderful neutral-toned mic that I've used on many recordings. Here's a recording a friend of mine made with a TC-67 I sold him. He used it for both the acoustic guitar and the vocals: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/attac...67_clip_01.mp3
You might also checkout the Beesneez Arabella or Telefunken AK47 MkII which I think both fall into the "not too bright , not too dark category".
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9th July 2011
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I was thinking about the Oceanus myself... seems a good all rounder at a good price. I like using AT4033's on everything though so WTH do I know hahaha.
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12th November 2011
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#5 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Greg B The ADK TC-67Au is a wonderful neutral-toned mic that I've used on many recordings. Here's a recording a friend of mine made with a TC-67 I sold him. He used it for both the acoustic guitar and the vocals: http://www.gearslutz.com/board/attac...67_clip_01.mp3
You might also checkout the Beesneez Arabella or Telefunken AK47 MkII which I think both fall into the "not too bright , not too dark category". | Greg, I'm really starting to fall in love with this mic, based on clips I've heard. When we last spoke, I mentioned having heard a great audio clip, and it happened to be another one you posted (not this one). Gotta say, the TC-67AU is 2-2 at this point.
What are the stock tube and transformer?
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12th November 2011
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Also, Greg, do you know what the vocal chain was for the recording you posted a link to? Wonderful sound, for certain.
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12th November 2011
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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The older my Lauten Oceanus gets, the better it sounds. Put it in front of a nice pre and it really shines.
For the peluso, Not sure about that one. I did have the AA audio Version (Dave Thomas) who at the time was using some of parts sourced through Peluso. I may be wrong about that and Dave is welcome to correct me.
I have to say it's not a bad sound for the money. Still the Oceanus out shines a lot of mics...If you haven't done so yet...get one of each for a demo and see what you like best. Also be aware there is no customer service better than that provided by Brian at Lauten.
Hope that helps some
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13th November 2011
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Irrelevant testimonials aside... its not all that difficult to find both at one shop... have them sent to your studio and try them next to each other.
From there you can make an educated decision on which tool best suits your immediate sense of aesthetic and which tool will be best for your work.
Anything else is preety much a waste of your time [but it is fun to read the various pimps trying to hawk their wares posts].
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15th November 2011
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#9 | | Gear nut
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Like the o/p, mulling a mid-price LDC. There seem to be a lot of me2's and me3's in the arena, not necessarily bad in any regard or audibly inferior, but not bringing something special to the table.
I am thinking maybe I should have Telefunken Copperhead on my list. (And not just because Fletcher has posted, I hasten to add).
As to voiceover's remark, I find it curious as a noob that mics should get better with age. Speakers take burn-in, as they're meant to be floppy when worked. OTOH mic diaphragms are meant to be stiff. Perhaps the ageing is to do with the electronics side?
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16th November 2011
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#10 | | Lives for food
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Dunno who this guy is, but I sure like the sounds he gets with the Peluso 67 and germanium on this stuff- Introducing Giulio Carmassi - HD - YouTube Lizzy Loeb & Giulio Carmassi - "Stand Still" - YouTube
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17th November 2011
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by hereticskeptic Greg, I'm really starting to fall in love with this mic, based on clips I've heard. When we last spoke, I mentioned having heard a great audio clip, and it happened to be another one you posted (not this one). Gotta say, the TC-67AU is 2-2 at this point.
What are the stock tube and transformer? | Tube they currently use in the TC-Au and TT-Au mics:
ECC-803s (Super 12AX7) FIVE-STAR TUBE that has been certified Low-Noise / Low-Microphonics
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17th November 2011
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Fletcher Irrelevant testimonials aside... its not all that difficult to find both at one shop... have them sent to your studio and try them next to each other.
From there you can make an educated decision on which tool best suits your immediate sense of aesthetic and which tool will be best for your work.
Anything else is preety much a waste of your time [but it is fun to read the various pimps trying to hawk their wares posts].
Peace | right!
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17th November 2011
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Fletcher Irrelevant testimonials aside... its not all that difficult to find both at one shop... have them sent to your studio and try them next to each other.
From there you can make an educated decision on which tool best suits your immediate sense of aesthetic and which tool will be best for your work.
Anything else is pretty much a waste of your time [but it is fun to read the various pimps trying to hawk their wares posts].
Peace | Seems like the forums would be pretty empty and useless if no one shared their experiences... At the very least, it can help in deciding what gear to bother testing out. Most folks don't have time to try everything themselves.
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8th December 2011
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#14 | | Gear nut
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Originally Posted by Greg B Seems like the forums would be pretty empty and useless if no one shared their experiences... At the very least, it can help in deciding what gear to bother testing out. Most folks don't have time to try everything themselves. |
Well said...
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8th December 2011
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#15 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by dambro2 Don't know the Peluso. The Oceanus rocks. It's not a gooey tube-y sound, just really nice and classy. | Agreed! The Oceanus is a phenomenal mic. It very much has it's own sound. It's full and rich, without being overly bright.
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9th December 2011
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That is absolutely true. A great guy with awesome customer service. Quote:
Originally Posted by voiceactor . . .there is no customer service better than that provided by Brian at Lauten.
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9th December 2011
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#17 | | Gear addict
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Had a bigger name producer out of Virginia Beach use a p67 against the real thing. He chose the p67 on all applications.
I love sales guys reviews on gearslutz! Fully divorced from profit motive.
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9th December 2011
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#18 | | Lives for gear
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Which post above are you referring to in this thread? It seems like the people I suspect are associated with selling gear have been responsible in their posts. I do not represent any manufacturer, but I have followed many posts on gearslutz. I think that overall the sellers have been responsible. And perhaps their great reason is that if they are not truthful about gear, there are tons of ways to make them look bad. Also, you may notice that many of them ask for people to try the various choices. What is wrong with that?
I am open to something you saw that I did not.
And by the way, the fact that some big name producer chose the P67 does not mean anything more than the other posts. Was their something wrong with the original 67? Who knows. I do think people should try these lesser expensive mics on a trial basis, and if they are great, more power to them. I love the Peluso P12 and certainly find it conceivable that the P67 can be a great mic. I just do not know. I do know the Oceanus is a great mic because I have tried two of them with great results. YMMV.
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Originally Posted by a2dpapi Had a bigger name producer out of Virginia Beach use a p67 against the real thing. He chose the p67 on all applications.
I love sales guys reviews on gearslutz! Fully divorced from profit motive. | |
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9th December 2011
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#19 | | Jai guru deva om
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Can I get in on the finger pointing here too?
I was just going to point you all over to our Clipalator which has both mics in there to listen to on drums, ac gtr, el gtr and male vocals.
The P67 we recorded using our "3 way" mod which gives you dark, normal and bright settings (changes the filtering on top).
We actually have the entire Lauten and Peluso lines featured in there.
I hope as an evil sales guy that this is OK.
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18th August 2012
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#20 | | Gear nut
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Does anyone have any experience with the sE Electronics Gemini II. How does it compare to the Oceanus?
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20th November 2012
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#21 | | Gear Head
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Originally Posted by adigga Does anyone have any experience with the sE Electronics Gemini II. How does it compare to the Oceanus? | I've compared the 2, seriously no comparison at all, the Oceanus destroys the Gemini in every way!
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