My thoughts on the Mixmaster 20

[spektor]

All i can say is Kick Ass. I upgraded from the Spl mixdream and i can say that to me it was sunrise to sunset. I only had it for a day i still have to break it in.
But now i don't want a console for me this is a small format recording console.
1. It is thick
2. Is has balls of iron
3. Its a pretty boy
4. Its made for the slut

It is not really a whole review but my thoughts on the matter

[spektor]

Also i would like to add is to thank Adam at Dspdocter. For helping me hook this bad ass mother to my patchbay Rock on! Adam!

[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by spektor

Also i would like to add is to thank Adam at Dspdocter. For helping me hook this bad ass mother to my patchbay Rock on! Adam!

Rock on spektor, thanks for the shout out!!!

I am very glad to hear your digging your MM20....

Enjoy your new mini console!!!

[spektor]

Mic press in the mixmaster rock.. I will have to say that they sound clear yet creamy.. Do they sound like the great river yes in a way but I like them some what better more universal to me... Anybody else have a mixmaster? Also who has heard it I would like what you think.. They this is gear baby

[tonedimension]

I've had a Mixmaster 20 for a few months now. One could wax poetic about the quality of the construction and design but in the end it's all about the sound, right? Well, it sounds great. Would you expect less from Dan Kennedy? I've run mixes through this thing that I had already done ITB and just using the 2-bus they sound better. Sure, it could be my confirmation bias, but I don't think so. I've also taken a mix I'm familiar with and split out the stems and sent them through the Mixmaster. Again, better. In fact, much better to my ears and better to some others whose opinions and ears I trust.

The monitoring on this thing is really outstanding as well. I came from using a D-Box into Focal Twins. Was there a night and day difference? Hell no. The D-Box is a great piece of kit and sounds wonderful but in my house I think the MM20 sounds a little better. I know the summing sounds better to me. Again, to me and YMMV.

I also compared the mic pre's to my NPNG's and MP2-NV's. They stand tall with both of those and that, IMHO, is saying something. With this thing you get 4 killer mic pre's along with the rest of the package. It's also pretty cool what you can add to a mix when you run it through those first four channels. Lot's of options with this box.

Of course, these are my impressions, my opinions and my feelings. I'm not here to debate the merits of summing or toss around too may adjectives about the depth, dimension or girth of the sound through this box. I tried it and found that it does an excellent job, sounds great and feels great. I try and concentrate on making music. I respect science and technology, but I don't let them get in the way of how I feel about music. Feel means more to me than spec. Without the feel, I think you have nothing but a nice collection of notes. But I digress...

Since Adam got a shout out, I think I need to also thank BT at DSPdoctor. BT, you are the man! Seriously, those guys believe in customer service and will go above and beyond every time. That kind of thing is important to me and I just wanted to mention it.

Anyway, if you get the opportunity, I urge you to check out the MM20. It might be your thing too.

[spektor]

Tone thx for the review. I have the mm20 and love it to death had the spl mix dream before and the mm20 is night and day for me... I also use the da8 jcf converters out and ad 8 ins with the latte and final mix down.. I can make music without worrying about gear and that makes me happy it's all about the music ))))

[Doc_]

Originally Posted by tonedimension

I've had a Mixmaster 20 for a few months now. One could wax poetic about the quality of the construction and design but in the end it's all about the sound, right? Well, it sounds great. Would you expect less from Dan Kennedy? I've run mixes through this thing that I had already done ITB and just using the 2-bus they sound better. Sure, it could be my confirmation bias, but I don't think so. I've also taken a mix I'm familiar with and split out the stems and sent them through the Mixmaster. Again, better. In fact, much better to my ears and better to some others whose opinions and ears I trust.

The monitoring on this thing is really outstanding as well. I came from using a D-Box into Focal Twins. Was there a night and day difference? Hell no. The D-Box is a great piece of kit and sounds wonderful but in my house I think the MM20 sounds a little better. I know the summing sounds better to me. Again, to me and YMMV.

I also compared the mic pre's to my NPNG's and MP2-NV's. They stand tall with both of those and that, IMHO, is saying something. With this thing you get 4 killer mic pre's along with the rest of the package. It's also pretty cool what you can add to a mix when you run it through those first four channels. Lot's of options with this box.

Of course, these are my impressions, my opinions and my feelings. I'm not here to debate the merits of summing or toss around too may adjectives about the depth, dimension or girth of the sound through this box. I tried it and found that it does an excellent job, sounds great and feels great. I try and concentrate on making music. I respect science and technology, but I don't let them get in the way of how I feel about music. Feel means more to me than spec. Without the feel, I think you have nothing but a nice collection of notes. But I digress...

Since Adam got a shout out, I think I need to also thank BT at DSPdoctor. BT, you are the man! Seriously, those guys believe in customer service and will go above and beyond every time. That kind of thing is important to me and I just wanted to mention it.

Anyway, if you get the opportunity, I urge you to check out the MM20. It might be your thing too.

Nice review ! No clue who you are,one of the many happy MM20 users,but thanks...

yes the MM20 is a smooth state of affairs thats for sure,have not heard any mixer at this price point or any price point for that mater,with a center image along with width like the MM20...

speaking of price point,the MixMasters introductory price is about to end Aug 1st,those on the fence better get off...

Peace

[asagaai]

Originally Posted by Doc_

yes the MM20 is a smooth state of affairs thats for sure,have not heard any mixer at this price point or any price point for that mater,with a center image along with width like the MM20...


Peace

Must agree that the width with the MM20 ....really opens up the sides.

GJ
Newcastle/OZ

[Remy Leloup]

Great thread , very interesting , thanks to Spector and Rocmixwell for all their impressions veru much apreciated here

[Doc Mixwell]

@ tonedimension

Originally Posted by Remy Leloup

Great thread , very interesting , thanks to Spector and Rocmixwell for all their impressions veru much apreciated here

Hey Remy!

The MM20 is just an awesome sounding machine! Not to mention the way it was designed, in accommodating your workflow.

Spektor is a client of mine [has been for years...so I am taking a stab in the dark that he won't mind when I speak for him] as I pretty much talk to him a couple of times a week and thus have been able to see what the Mix Master20 has brought to his table. I am sure he has way more fun making music than posting eye-ball-liquefier posts than me, so I think I should share my thoughts on Spektor's MM20, and that this mixer has improved his output, by a LOT. I am not kidding you.

And.......I am not trying to be a sales weasel either. And --- its not like he had crap before. Truly awesome gear! The SPL is a great box, no kidding. It is the control and function of the MM20 that allows him to accomplish his mixes faster [coupled to the fact he now has a full on functioning patch field with all his gear connected]....the sonics help him accomplish his goal easier.

He is now "mixing into something" - [MUCH more than before - even with all those silly cool JCF boxes he's rocking out with] as what I have noticed happening is that his mixes are coming to together faster, and they are thicker sounding, [even more thick than when he added the DA8V to the party] and I think the MM20 might have the audio quality equivalent to sitting in a wrap around plush leather sofa, and saying to yourself...."room for everyone, and oh boy is this cozy"......His mixes sound less flat than before - more 3d dimensional - and even more detailed throughout the spectrum. Definitely less top end sizzle too....

It is Big and wide, clear and huge. The Density that the mixer adds, gives a perceived fullness, and he is noticing he doesn't need to band aid things with compression or anything after the mixer as much as he was used to. Though you can easily smack the glue over the 2-mix insert for MORE juju - this puppy is juju-central. Straight back into a AD converter that rings your bell, is all you need most days.

What has really been stellar for him is getting his gear on the Insert Patch Jacks of channels 1-4, for mixing and for tracking with the direct outputs going into the recorder. With the MM20, you can use those first four channels, however you want for all stages of production, and Spektor seems to really value them for his style of production, and I am sure this was the initial thought process of the unit/where you're going to track through these channels/patch gear/monitor without latency and then in mixing get your foreground elements to pop into the foreground. He is already noticing tighter performances from using the Mixer to monitor his vocal tracking.

The Great River has A LOT of input and output headroom. On Everything from the Mic amps to the Mix Bus, to the Monitor Path. Everything on the unit is specified over and above for the sonic integrity. Just like all Great River Products! The MM20's range of sweet spot allows you to really make the center solid/tight and dense, but the image is always open allowing you to build upon the textures you are creating.

[Tube World]

Glad you like it.

I am tired to the sales pitches we continue to see on gearslutz. Dont' need it, dont' care what it does. I use Portico and Manley gear in my studio. Don't need to sum things through more pre's to get a "better sound". If it does something for you that you like, g r e a t. I am sure it changes the sound, but I like the sound of my Portico gear and don't want to change it by running it through more pre's. Frankly I am getting a little tired of gearslutz these days.

[Jeremy Krull]

Originally Posted by Tube World

Glad you like it.

I am tired to the sales pitches we continue to see on gearslutz. Dont' need it, dont' care what it does. I use Portico and Manley gear in my studio. Don't need to sum things through more pre's to get a "better sound". If it does something for you that you like, g r e a t. I am sure it changes the sound, but I like the sound of my Portico gear and don't want to change it by running it through more pre's. Frankly I am getting a little tired of gearslutz these days.

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[Doc Mixwell]

I just want to clarify for Tubeworld that there is no way to "sum through mic amps" on the Mix Master. The First four channels are switchable, mic/Line Inputs. You use the mic amps for recording and switch them to line in when mixing. The idea is you can jump right back to using the mic amps and overdub while your mixing, however you want.

[spektor]

Lol I'm going to jump in to this wonderful conversation...
Tube world I understand that you might not be interested in reading anything about the mixmaster.. And your happy with the gear you have and man the best to you...))) I I can say roc is saying it correct that it made me work better and I love the sound.. I will say that I have the sound I want and can make music.. I would say that if I am tired of hearing something I won't listen to it.. I am posing this because this is gear klutz and I am talking about gear... I love sound with a passion and I'm sure there are people that are interesting in hearing about about gear.. And also about the exp I have with gear.. I trust roc with sound never steered me wrong and I am a tough cookie.. Other then that I'm a happy mother right now with my sound...

)))

[Tube World]

Originally Posted by spektor

Lol I'm going to jump in to this wonderful conversation...
Tube world I understand that you might not be interested in reading anything about the mixmaster.. And your happy with the gear you have and man the best to you...))) I I can say roc is saying it correct that it made me work better and I love the sound.. I will say that I have the sound I want and can make music.. I would say that if I am tired of hearing something I won't listen to it.. I am posing this because this is gear klutz and I am talking about gear... I love sound with a passion and I'm sure there are people that are interesting in hearing about about gear.. And also about the exp I have with gear.. I trust roc with sound never steered me wrong and I am a tough cookie.. Other then that I'm a happy mother right now with my sound...

)))

You do know how many sales people post things on gearslutz pretending to be consumers.. If only gearslutz was of consumers expressing their joy on gear they purchased. Then I would agree with you. Maybe this one is not a sales pitch, but there are too many out there that are not.

I got contacted by salesman saying hey I saw on gearslutz you were interested in this gear. We have it, want to tryyyyy it out?

[Doc Mixwell]

Tube World, you should report the person that is sending you unwanted solicitations about gear.

[Glenn Bucci]

Originally Posted by Roc Mixwell

Tube World, you should report the person that is sending you unwanted solicitations about gear.

I have received many of these myself.....thankfully not from company's like Mercenary who I have only had great experiences with.

[Jay Fitz]

Originally Posted by Glenn Bucci

I have received many of these myself.....thankfully not from company's like Mercenary who I have only had great experiences with.

Hi Glenn, we at DSPdoctor, as former core Mercenary employees, are all appreciative of that. We plan to continue to use our industry knowledge and customer service skills to provide more great experiences into the future!

[spektor]

Tube then I can understand that and that does suck.. But I'm speaking for me love my shit lol

[nikitouch]

Hi, Anybody to help me? I'm looking for a summing box what are the best
Shadow hills equinox or great river mm20 or a new one???
thank you

[RKrizman]

Seriously? Your first post?

-R

[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by nikitouch

Hi, Anybody to help me? I'm looking for a summing box what are the best
Shadow hills equinox or great river mm20 or a new one???
thank you

For whatever it may be worth, in our opinion, the shortcommings of the Shadow summing box, and others we tested, inspired the design of the Great River MM20.

[nikitouch]

yes my first post,
is someone has made a test betwwen mm20/equinox?