ATC25 vs. Atc SL50 vs. Quested V3110

[SAGABEBA]

Hi,

I have a very good deal on these 3 pair of speakers,

I've read all I could find in Gearslutz about them but didn't fine any straight comparison.

I know that the 25 is smaller and the other two are more a mid- field monitors, but I just need more information to decide.

First I thought about the V3110 which I actualy heard at friend's studio and liked them very much, very nice mids, very good image and depth, still I don't know why but something with the highs sounded a bit untrue,

My friend told me he had his own research about his monitors and that the Quested V3110 has alot in common with ATC speakers sound but cost alot less, what do you think ?

I have a friend overseas that compaired the 25 and the V3110 and his conclusion was that the 25 although smaller, is in a different league and is a much better monitor.

First I was and still is interested in the 25 but now I'm interested also in the extended SL50,which is a bit out of my budget but I will make the effort if I will be convinced that it worth it.


So anyone compared the 25 VS. SL50 VS. V3110 ?

Thanks.

[SAGABEBA]

Anyone?

[burp182]

Quested uses a different midrange dome driver than does ATC. I believe ATC makes theirs in-house. The 50 has a larger box and therefore a lower bass cutoff point but the 25 is very effective when used in it's proper positioning.
Do you have the space and the acoustically tuned room to support a midfield monitoring system? The greater SPL and distance will cause the room to react to the speaker's output much more than it does with a nearfield monitor. If you aren't prepared for that, your results could suffer in comparison.
The ATCs sound very similar to each other (within their specs) and the Quested a little different in character. All great choices and no way to lose, whichever you end up with. But beware the room issue. It could sink everything.

[frenzy]

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

I've read all I could find in Gearslutz about them but didn't fine any straight comparison.

Well, I work as a technical reviewer of audio gear for a couple of magazines and I have tested the ATC SCM25PRO and Quested V3110 in my control room. Ended up buying the V3110. I want to comment you and the I'll post my findings.

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

First I thought about the V3110 which I actualy heard at friend's studio and liked them very much, very nice mids, very good image and depth, still I don't know why but something with the highs sounded a bit untrue

Well, keep in mind that they are midfield monitors so you need to get some distance from the speakers to fully open up the sound stage. 2-2.5 meters and the sound really opens up. How far from the listening position are the speakers positioned in your friends control room? What kind of DAC/soundcard does he use and what kind of monitoring control?

Robust speaker stands are crucial for all speakers but especially for bigger speakers that are able to produce a lot of bass energy. Inferior speaker stands makes the overall sound stage smaller and really have a negative impact on the low-end response.

Remember that a speaker with this clarity tends to reveal the weakest link in the audio chain.

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

My friend told me he had his own research about his monitors and that the Quested V3110 has alot in common with ATC speakers sound but cost alot less, what do you think?

Both speakers are mighty fine speakers with very respectable sound. To me the ATC midrange is one of a kind, very surgical without being clinical. It reveals every nuisance of the sound stage. Great for mastering (and mixing if you fancy that kind of clarity). A dash of reverb on the vocals and they end up in a tunnel, so the mixes might end up on the dry side compared to other monitoring systems. Still I love the ATC midrange and would happily own a pair of ATC speakers if I had the money.

In the low-end department the two speakers differs quite a bit. ATC speakers have by design a very clear bass response which at first might sound thin. But when you get accustom to it and learn how it portrays your mixes it's very revealing.

Being a sucker for low-end the ATC sound thin (even the bigger SCM50) to me, and the Quested V3110 has a wonderful punchy yet detailed low-end response. I can play silly loud and still have a controlled sound.

The ATC SCM25's weren't able to reproduce 40Hz with ease in my control room and the Quested V3110 easily plays down to 35Hz in my room. The side-firing bass ports on the SCM25 was also a deal-breaker for me, cause I plan to soffit mount my main speakers.

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

I have a friend overseas that compaired the 25 and the V3110 and his conclusion was that the 25 although smaller, is in a different league and is a much better monitor.

It all comes down to personal preferences and do remember that speakers can behave surprisingly different in different control rooms. The size of the room, the acoustics and the positioning of the speakers can really make them sound different in two different rooms.

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

First I was and still is interested in the 25 but now I'm interested also in the extended SL50,which is a bit out of my budget but I will make the effort if I will be convinced that it worth it.

Here's a piece that I wrote in another thread:

I love the midrange clarity the ATC possess and have never heard any other monitoring system with the same clarity. But having that kind of clarity can sometimes be contra-productive because you end up tweaking everything beyond what will be audible in most other speaker systems. For mastering it's a great tool, but for production, I don't know. You have to listen for yourself.
The vertical spread is very narrow with +-10 degrees I think making the sweet spot rather small, on the other hand it's probably one of the reasons why they have such a great midrange clarity. But your customers sitting at the back of the control room or standing up behind you might not have the same fantastic listening experience as you're having.
But the biggest difference between ATC and other fairly big speakers like the Quested V3110 is the low-end. ATC voice the bass ports so that the bass distortion is as low as it possibly can be; and they make their own woofers that have impressively low distortion figures. In practice you will first find them to be rather light on the low-end because it won't make your mixing console vibrate even at high listening levels. After a while you will start to hear that the bass is really there and if a bass note is 0.5dB too low compared to another you will easily hear it (if your control room have good enough acoustic treatment). But you won't feel it like you would on another speaker of the same size.
Again, the ATCs are great for mastering were you really need to hear the most subtle tonal changes.

On the other hand, if you're a bass junkie like I am the ATCs lack of low-end distortion will probably be a bit of a disappointment.

Like you probably already have found out the Quested V3110 can really pump some bass and there's no lack power either. I can play them silly loud making my acoustic inner roof start shaking and they still sound great with no sign of compression.

What I like the most about the Quested is that they have great dynamics across the whole frequency spectrum, they sound pleasant even at loud levels, the low-end is fast, thick and punchy. And they're not as analytic as the ATCs but still have very good clarity. Putting a little bit of reverb on the vocals doesn't pull them into a tunnel like I feel it does on ATCs.
The Quested has wider vertical spread (and probably horizontal too) which will make your customer have pretty much the same listening experience as you're having (if they're not sitting against the back wall, because then they'll hear a lot of bass energy).

Make no mistake, I love ATC speakers and would love to have a pair, but they were too pricey for me, and shelling out that kind of money I wanted a speaker system that plays full-range with a powerful but still controlled low-end.

And I found what I was looking for in the Quested V3110... :D

But don't take my word on it, because spending this much money you really have to borrow and try out the speakers yourself and put them to use in your own control room. Buying monitors is a bit like buying shoes, you kind of have to try them out yourself (even your friend loves them).

If you haven't had the chance to listen to the ATCs then maybe you should start with them, but don't forget to try out the V3110 as well. The V3110 won't cost you as much.

I hope my advices will help you find a great monitoring system too.


Cheers
Fred

My Studio

[SAGABEBA]

Thanks guys,

Well, keep in mind that they are midfield monitors so you need to get some distance from the speakers to fully open up the sound stage. 2-2.5 meters and the sound really opens up. How far from the listening position are the speakers positioned in your friends control room?

My friend listen in around 1.5 meter in a very well treated room,
At the beginning I also thought why is he listening so close to a mid-field monitor, but when I listened from his chair everything sounded very good, and also from the couch on the back...

I wached some picturs of sudios from the net which also had the SL50 no more then 2 meters and a few even a bit less then that.

What kind of DAC/soundcard does he use and what kind of monitoring control?

he use the the Aurora 16 as a converter and also I do,and he has the 8816 and I use the SSL X-DESK as my monitor control.

My room is not treated good enough right now but soon I'm going to build some special room from ground up around my monitors.

In the low-end department the two speakers differs quite a bit. ATC speakers have by design a very clear bass response which at first might sound thin. But when you get accustom to it and learn how it portrays your mixes it's very revealing.

Being a sucker for low-end the ATC sound thin (even the bigger SCM50) to me, and the Quested V3110 has a wonderful punchy yet detailed low-end response. I can play silly loud and still have a controlled sound.

The ATC SCM25's weren't able to reproduce 40Hz with ease in my control room and the Quested V3110 easily plays down to 35Hz in my room. The side-firing bass ports on the SCM25 was also a deal-breaker for me, cause I plan to soffit mount my main speakers.

I had ADAM S3A that I sold few months ago which had very honky midrange that I didn't like too much, the tweeter was not reviling enough and the bass was nothing to write home about...

Now meantime I have Event Opal ( had avery good deal ) which is very strong and revealing in the lower register, full but not hyped just punchy fat lows that you don't need much subs, so I'm covered in that area, but the mids which are ok and the highs are not the first rate and all not natural enough.

The opals are perfect for electronic, hiphop and dance music while the quested looks perfect for the more acoustic stuff.

It may sound strange for you but from what I compered the lows on the opal were even better then the lows of the bigger 3110, but the image the depth the midrange and the more natural sound of the quested were much better.

Still I'm going to keep the opal for a second monitor especialy for the low register and to have the ATC for main work.

My tendency is for the 25 but I was just told how much the SL50 is so greate and I couldn't wonder what will I get more on the 50 that I will not get from the 25 except for more volume/headroom?

Thanks

[frenzy]

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

My friend listen in around 1.5 meter in a very well treated room,
At the beginning I also thought why is he listening so close to a mid-field monitor, but when I listened from his chair everything sounded very good, and also from the couch on the back...

I also find the V3110 to have a nice spread across my control room.

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

he use the the Aurora 16 as a converter and also I do,and he has the 8816 and I use the SSL X-DESK as my monitor control.

Sounds good enough. I monitor through a Lavry DA10 straight into a Central Station with passive attenuators, so my monitoring chain is very transparent.

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

My room is not treated good enough right now but soon I'm going to build some special room from ground up around my monitors.

Sounds like a good plan. Spending a lot of money on a monitoring system kind of demands spending some money on the acoustics as well.

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

I had ADAM S3A that I sold few months ago which had very honky midrange that I didn't like too much, the tweeter was not reviling enough and the bass was nothing to write home about...

The new ADAM X-series speakers are better, the low-end is firmer and the ribbon tweeters are smoother sounding. Still I don't fancy ribbon tweeters very much and few potential listeners of my mixes have ribbon speakers.

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

Now meantime I have Event Opal ( had a very good deal ) which is very strong and revealing in the lower register, full but not hyped just punchy fat lows that you don't need much subs, so I'm covered in that area, but the mids which are ok and the highs are not the first rate and all not natural enough.

I've listened to the Opals on a couple occasions and they didn't impress me at all. You can find better speakers in that price range.
The low-end was hyped in a way that two-way speakers usually are and the low-mid dynamics was nowhere close the performance of a three-way or well-built two-way speaker.

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

It may sound strange for you but from what I compered the lows on the opal were even better then the lows of the bigger 3110, but the image the depth the midrange and the more natural sound of the quested were much better.

Hehe, well it does sound strange to me and it shows how important it is to try out different speakers until you find the perfect speakers for your control room. Without trying to be a wise-a** it sounds like you prefer the low-end performance of a two-way speaker. Nothing wrong with that because when you get a working mix in a two-way speaker it have a good chance of working in other speakers as well.
Personally I love the low-end of the V3110 because a well recorded kick drum sounds like a real kick drum. Same with a well recorded bass guitar. Love the "thud" of the kick drum around 40-50Hz. Most two-way speakers are able to reproduce 40-50Hz but not with the same punch, clarity or dynamics, and the "thud" is replaced by an undefined cushion of air.
And I love when the V3110 reproduce a thick analogue 808 kick drum without any post-ringing. Just the kick drum without any speaker-resonance.
But the main difference between two-way and three-way speakers is the midrange clarity. By design the woofer of a two-way speaker has to reproduce both low-end, low-mid and some mid, leaving the upper-mid and treble to the tweeter. To my ears that will always compromise the sound to some extent. It doesn't have to be a bad thing because if you get a mix working well in a two-way speaker (or even one-way speaker) chances are that it will work in other speakers as well.
But now that I've got three-way speakers I will never go back, because I love the punch, clarity and not having to "think about the speakers". The Quested V3110 produces more of a wavefront and I forget that I'm listening to a pair of speakers. Love that feeling being one with the music... :D

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

My tendency is for the 25 but I was just told how much the SL50 is so greate and I couldn't wonder what will I get more on the 50 that I will not get from the 25 except for more volume/headroom?

Main difference (apart from the price) is low-end extension. The 50's will play full-range whereas the 25's are a bit bass-light (at least in my control room). The headroom of the 25's is enough as long as you're not want to play silly loud.

My guess is that you are going to scratch you head the first time you hear (or not hear) the low-end of the ATC speakers, because it's special.


Cheers
Fred

My Studio

[SAGABEBA]

For me the Opal revealed a lowend information that I was missing with the Adams, I had alot of surprises at that area when I heard some of my mixes outside,

With the Opals I didn't have any surprises, not even one , and It's fantastic on recording lowend instruments like bass and low drums.

Except for the lows It may not be the most expensive natural sound, but Balance wise, what I hear is what I get, at least at my studio conditions, and that's alot for me.

I know that if something will be missing from the lows It will be revealed by the Opals

So I'll go for the 25...

Thanks Fred

[frenzy]

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

Except for the lows It may not be the most expensive natural sound, but Balance wise, what I hear is what I get, at least at my studio conditions, and that's alot for me.

That's what counts, if they work fine in your studio then hold on to them.

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

I know that if something will be missing from the lows It will be revealed by the Opals

Believe it or not, but I check my (upper) lows in a pair of Avantone Mixcubes. If the frequencies around 100-300Hz aren't thick enough the Mixcubes sounds painfully thin.

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

So I'll go for the 25...

They are mighty fine speakers and the mid-range clarity is miles ahead of any two-way speaker.


Cheers
Fred

My Studio

[Helius]

I had the K&H O300 and Genelec 8250 and replaced them with the ATC SCM 25. Best upgrade ever for my studio setup. You wouldn't believe how much more information yoou get. And it's a pleasure to listen to them. Enough said

[SAGABEBA]

Yesterday I went again to my friend's studio for another listen to the V3110 ,

well, It is a great monitor, the punch is very nice, perfect midrange, alot of depth, very good image what to say... and it is less money then the ATC now that made me a bit confused again! ,

But still I think I'm going to stick to my original plan for the 25.

[Brad Lunde]

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

Yesterday I went agin to my friend's studio for another listen to the V3110 ,

well, It is a great monitor, the punch is very nice, perfect midrange, alot of depth, very good image what to say... and it is less money then the ATC now that made me a bit confused again! ,

But still I think I'm going to stick to my original plan for the 25.

I work for ATC in the US and have a lot of experience with them, 50's, 100, etc.

ATC's are all about midrange definition, where 95% of the action happens. Our midrange is unique, we cross to woofers at 350 and to tweeters at 3.5K which is unusual-move all crossover points away from vocals. We also build our own mid and woofers, which is also different. The SL woofer (in 50 on up) drops ugly 3rd harmonic distortion up to 30dB.

How speakers sound has a LOT to do with a room and many judgements are subjective in unique to that room. For example the narrow sweet spot Fred reported, he had a special result in his room. The horizontal dispersion is far wider than most (which is why they work well in large control rooms such as film scoring rooms), and vertical is normal. Most would report wider sweet spot than others. Reflections are usually the reason for a wide dispersion loudspeaker sounding narrow-it can happen. You can treat the room to solve this issue usually.

25's where all about getting a smaller front baffle dimension for portability and near field use and use the ATC midrange. Our previous small speakers were 2 ways. It is a small speaker that sounds like the bigger ATCs. They are for nearfield use, not soffit mounting and the ports are pushed around he sides for smaller front baffle size.

They do sound nice and yes, it costs more to do the things they do such as hand made power amps, FET limiters and custom drivers.

Does this help clarify a bit?
Brad

[Tube World]

I always thought the Quested were decent monitors, but when the original owner got involved and started upgrading the line, I took notice. The newer designs like the V3110 have only received the highest praise from everyone.

[CaptCrunch]

What Frenzy said is pretty much spot-on regarding my experience with ATC monitors. I have a pair of SCM150ASLs which have the 15" LF driver, and the _apparent_ bass output is quite different to most other monitors in that size range. The information is there but just not cloaked in distortion masquerading as thump. Like any monitor, there is some adjusting that is necessary when switching and if you compare similar 15" LF systems, there may be some confusion with the differences.

I also have a pair of Quested VS3208 midfields that I really like for some diversity. They are much more a pop/rock-friendly monitor than the ATC for similar sized monitors. I have a friend who brought over his ATC SCM50s for a comparison to my 150s and the VS3208s out punch them on rock. If you are trying to impress someone, turning up the bigger Questeds will bring smiles all around providing you have done your part.

All that said, I still love ATCs enough to also have a pair of the SCM20SL passives as a nearfield monitor with a Bryston 4B-ST amp driving them. I love the ATC neutrality for mixing bar none. While I haven't found anything better, what I have has not made me care to look elsewhere for something that might displace them. That is what I like, equipment that stops the gear-lust dead in it's tracks because it does the job so well (for me).

[tomdarude]

When you have a chance to get some used ATC scm50a for a decent price, why look further ??

I´d have no second thought!

[SAGABEBA]

The SL woofer (in 50 on up) drops ugly 3rd harmonic distortion up to 30dB

Thank you Brad,

Well, that's about the 50 and up, but I know that the 25 doesn't have the SL system, why and how will it stand in that area, will it be clean as, or less ?

I also have a pair of Quested VS3208 midfields that I really like for some diversity. They are much more a pop/rock-friendly monitor than the ATC for similar sized monitors. I have a friend who brought over his ATC SCM50s for a comparison to my 150s and the VS3208s out punch them on rock. If you are trying to impress someone, turning up the bigger Questeds will bring smiles all around providing you have done your part.

All that said, I still love ATCs enough to also have a pair of the SCM20SL passives as a nearfield monitor with a Bryston 4B-ST amp driving them. I love the ATC neutrality for mixing bar none. While I haven't found anything better, what I have has not made me care to look elsewhere for something that might displace them. That is what I like, equipment that stops the gear-lust dead in it's tracks because it does the job so well (for me). Today 06:29 PM

So, what you actually say is that you like the sound of the Quested but when you really want to mix you prefer the clarity of the ATC ?


Thanks

[Shaman]

Very happy with my stc 25s, which replaced mm 27s.
Previously had Questeds 32/08 which allways sound pleasing
and go way loud but are not exactly acurate.

If you are looking for a neutral speaker with microscopic
midrange detail there´s no way around atc imho.
Barefoot are nice as well except their support
in europe sucks.

[Helius]

I never heard the barefoots before buying the ATC 25, but I always wanted to check them out. Now I hear lots of people saying that the ATC's are more accurate. My dealer also told me that many of his customers switched from mm27 to the ATC 25. So I'm happy with my choice

[CaptCrunch]

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

Thank you Brad,

Well, that's about the 50 and up, but I know that the 25 doesn't have the SL system, why and how will it stand in that area, will it be clean as, or less ?




So, what you actually say is that you like the sound of the Quested but when you really want to mix you prefer the clarity of the ATC ?


Thanks

The ATCs will make you work harder to rid a mix of undesirable elements because so many things are revealed by them. If you are not accustomed to highly detailed monitors, they can become a double-edged sword. You will hear things cloaked by lesser monitors that themselves are almost always still going to be better than the end-users playback system. Until one adjusts to the ATC, recordings can seem so flawed that a redo may often seem the only way to correct the issues; they are that unforgiving. If you are recording and mixing on the ATCs, then you can adjust your mic positions, change instruments, etc to fix matters before they are recorded with flaws. However, having an inexperienced home recordist bring something they labored over for weeks into my studio and hear the results can bring tears. Questeds are a bit more forgiving when presenting detail and can be a bit more enjoyable as a result. While I would love a pair of the Quested mains with four 15" LF drivers for the fun of it! But I would still have my ATCs because I take pride in my work from beginning to end and want to improve wherever I can whenever I can. In that respect, the ATCs have brought work from the scenario I painted above with the home recordists. Playing raw tracks recorded by someone with marginal monitors and highly inferior rooms against well recorded material and properly controlled acoustics will show the value of experience and professional equipment.

[SAGABEBA]

The ATCs will make you work harder to rid a mix of undesirable elements because so many things are revealed by them

I really like that idea !

Questeds are a bit more forgiving when presenting detail and can be a bit more enjoyable as a result. While I would love a pair of the Quested mains with four 15" LF drivers for the fun of it! But I would still have my ATCs because I take pride in my work from beginning to end and want to improve wherever I can whenever I can

If you had to stay only with the 20, would that be good enough for mixing/ recording ?

Will the low end be good enough?

I just assume that the 20 low end will be much closer to the 25 then the 150...

Thanks

[CaptCrunch]

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

I really like that idea !

If you had to stay only with the 20, would that be good enough for mixing/ recording ?

Will the low end be good enough?

I just assume that the 20 low end will be much closer to the 25 then the 150...

Thanks

Sorry for the delay in replying. The 20s alone would not suffice for mixing for me. I'm not saying it can't be done, but there are a few things that would give me pause.

The passive SCM20SLs are a sealed cabinet design. Without a port, the lows and low-mids, while punchier, simply won't reach as low as a ported design. If you have ever worked in a studio with larger monitors (say something with at least a single 15" LF driver), you quickly learn the limits of nearfield designs. Your whole approach will change with the LF presentation. With experience, you learn how the sources translate to the smaller monitors and often find the bigs are used less frequently, but I would still prefer a larger LF driver than 6.5".

Of the monitors you have mentioned, the SCM50ASL would be my first choice, the Quested 3110 a close second, followed by the smaller ATCs. I'd simply want as much accurate information as possible, and the Questeds are a fine choice that, IMHO, can be trusted for any use. If you can stretch for the SCM50ASLs or larger, while the mid driver is awesome, you also get the SL class LF driver which adds tremendously to the monitor. I'm not sure I'd jump into ATC for my entire monitor package without BOTH the dome midrange and the SL LF driver. That's a lot of $$$ without getting all of their best technology.

[SAGABEBA]

Thanks for the reply,

I know that when you have a very good room, and you move up to the Big Mid-Fields it's a bit hard to come back to the small nears, you just get used to the big DEEP impressive sound and stay there,

But still for my budget, I can't afford the bigger 50's right now...

I can easily afford the V3110 which are around 2000$ less then the ATC25 in england.

For now I'll go for the ATC25 , and in around half a year I'll be also able to buy the Quested, to have both for the ultimate SLUTTY setup...

I think that ATC25 + V3110 > ATC50

Thanks

[Helius]

I promise you will be very very happy with the ATC's. But be warned you really have to work hard because bad mixes sound really horrible and you won't be satisfied too early

[SAGABEBA]

Well, that's what a good monitor is all about no ???

Just ordered a pair...

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[frenzy]

Originally Posted by Brad Lunde

ATC's are all about midrange definition, where 95% of the action happens. Our midrange is unique, we cross to woofers at 350 and to tweeters at 3.5K which is unusual-move all crossover points away from vocals. We also build our own mid and woofers, which is also different. The SL woofer (in 50 on up) drops ugly 3rd harmonic distortion up to 30dB.

The ATC midrange is truly remarkable. No question about that.

Originally Posted by Brad Lunde

How speakers sound has a LOT to do with a room and many judgements are subjective in unique to that room. For example the narrow sweet spot Fred reported, he had a special result in his room. The horizontal dispersion is far wider than most (which is why they work well in large control rooms such as film scoring rooms), and vertical is normal. Most would report wider sweet spot than others. Reflections are usually the reason for a wide dispersion loudspeaker sounding narrow-it can happen. You can treat the room to solve this issue usually.

I've never said anything about the horizontal dispersion, it's really good. The vertical dispersion of the ATC 25's is the most narrow I've even come across and I've tested a bunch of different speakers. +- 10 degrees according to the specifications and it probably a true figure. There's nothing wrong with it in terms of reflections and focusing the sound-stage, but I was surprised how narrow it was and I had to tell people listening to them to sit down, because otherwise the midrange and treble sounded quite different compared to sitting in the (vertical) sweet-spot position.

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

Well, that's what a good monitor is all about no ???

For sure!!!

Originally Posted by SAGABEBA

Just ordered a pair...

Please let us know how they work out for you and have fun dissecting your favourite records. You will hear things you've never heard before. :D


Cheers
Frederick

[WunderBro Flo]

I have 3110s, love them. However the 25s are a nearfield speaker while the 3110s are midfields which cannot be used in the nearfield, so there is no real comparison - you will ultimately place the atc closer than the questeds. maybe you should figure out first if you want to work mainly on near or midfields. be prepared to invest in some acoustics when going for midfields, the questeds should be placed no closer than 2 meters apart if possible. the rooms modes are much (!) more interfering with your sound at that distance than typical nearfield placement. however when done right midfields work wonderfully, it is just a different kind of view at your sound.
I used ADAM S4A before which are pretty much as detailed and low reaching as the questeds, but my personal taste seems to be served a little bit better by the 3110s so my mixes translate even better - in the end your personal preferences will decide which is the "better" monitor as this judgement is always highly subjective.

[SAGABEBA]

Thanks people,

I'll let you know what I think about the 25, but from some logistic resons I'll have them, not befor mid of september,

I have 3110s, love them. However the 25s are a nearfield speaker while the 3110s are midfields which cannot be used in the nearfield, so there is no real comparison - you will ultimately place the atc closer than the questeds. maybe you should figure out first if you want to work mainly on near or midfields. be prepared to invest in some acoustics when going for midfields, the questeds should be placed no closer than 2 meters apart if possible. the rooms modes are much (!) more interfering with your sound at that distance than typical nearfield placement. however when done right midfields work wonderfully, it is just a different kind of view at your sound.
I used ADAM S4A before which are pretty much as detailed and low reaching as the questeds, but my personal taste seems to be served a little bit better by the 3110s so my mixes translate even better - in the end your personal preferences will decide which is the "better" monitor as this judgement is always highly subjective.

Yes I know the difference, but just after I heard the big sound of the 3110 I could not decide if I want a near or a mid field... but at the end I went with my gut feeling for the ATC ,

The funny thing is that in the last few days I had some extra income so I can efford now also the ATC 50 and I'm still thinking about it but for now I'll stay with the 25 unless someone from here is going to convince me otherwise and make me think about it more seriously.

Thanks

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Thanks people,

I'll let you know what I think about the 25, but from some logistic resons I'll have them, not befor mid of september,

I have 3110s, love them. However the 25s are a nearfield speaker while the 3110s are midfields which cannot be used in the nearfield, so there is no real comparison - you will ultimately place the atc closer than the questeds. maybe you should figure out first if you want to work mainly on near or midfields. be prepared to invest in some acoustics when going for midfields, the questeds should be placed no closer than 2 meters apart if possible. the rooms modes are much (!) more interfering with your sound at that distance than typical nearfield placement. however when done right midfields work wonderfully, it is just a different kind of view at your sound.
I used ADAM S4A before which are pretty much as detailed and low reaching as the questeds, but my personal taste seems to be served a little bit better by the 3110s so my mixes translate even better - in the end your personal preferences will decide which is the "better" monitor as this judgement is always highly subjective.

Yes I know the difference, but just after I heard the big sound of the 3110 I could not decide whether I want a near or a mid field... but at the end I went with my gut feeling for the ATC ,

The funny thing is that in the last few days I had some extra income so I can efford now also the ATC 50 and I'm still thinking about it but for now I'll stay with the 25 unless someone from here is going to convince me otherwise and make me think about it more seriously, who wants to do that, anyone ???

Thanks