Neve 1073LB or BAE 1073MP

[robertshaw]

Originally Posted by bigbone

Did you ?

yes, and not by comparing photographs

[oceantracks]

On all this stuff what baffles me is that anytime I ever, as a producer, had an engineer who used Neve modules (1073, 1066 in particular) I never saw any of those engineers cut a vocal or a guitar track or whatever, without using a bit of EQ in those modules. Often the source sounded very much on the dark side without it. I can't imagine using any Neve style preamp without an EQ, but maybe I just had strange engineers

What do you guys think?

TH

[robertshaw]

Originally Posted by oceantracks

On all this stuff what baffles me is that anytime I ever, as a producer, had an engineer who used Neve modules (1073, 1066 in particular) I never saw any of those engineers cut a vocal or a guitar track or whatever, without using a bit of EQ in those modules. Often the source sounded very much on the dark side without it. I can't imagine using any Neve style preamp without an EQ, but maybe I just had strange engineers

What do you guys think?

TH

they can be muddy, but you can always eq later. Personally I only use my Neves on drums and I usually never use eq while tracking, only eq ITB during mix.

[Arthur Stone]

IMO the filters on the BAE1073mpf really help (also as they have a secondary effect on the upper frequencies).

There have been some great shootout threads on the...err...'Neve-style' preamps and the BAE tended to do well, often preferred to the 'name' units. That said, one preamp might sound preferrable yet lose that crown in a crowded mix.

I'm really happy with my choice but I'm still intrigued enough to lust after a Neve.

[Tone Laborer]

Originally Posted by oceantracks

I can't imagine using any Neve style preamp without an EQ, but maybe I just had strange engineers

What do you guys think?

TH

I would disagree. Use a brighter mic, re position etc. or eq/ HP if the source needs it, but it ain't written in stone somewhere. I've cut plenty of things with Neve pres where I didn't dare F it up with EQ. Other sources vary, recording isn't stagnant.

RE; the never ending modules ill fitting/working with this or that box What the freak. What is so difficult about 5.25" to get right? I don't understand why in this day of CAD design things should have any trouble fitting--in ANYTHING. I've never run into problems, thankfully, that would smoke myazz. Even over the internet, I feel your pain.

It's probably wrong of me to judge on looks and I know AMS Neve has its supporters, but the build of BAE or Avedis alone would sway me greatly in their favor.

[robertshaw]

Originally Posted by Tone Laborer

RE; the never ending modules ill fitting/working with this or that box What the freak. What is so difficult about 5.25" to get right? I don't understand why in this day of CAD design things should have any trouble fitting--in ANYTHING. I've never run into problems, thankfully, that would smoke myazz. Even over the internet, I feel your pain.

Has nothing to do with CAD It comes down to tolerances. The 5.25 might be actually be 5.2 or 5.3 when they fabricate it to save money. The larger bends or cuts cause an issue like with those cheapo 500 series racks everyone under the sun is pumping out. It all comes down to saving $$$
When mass producing the the difference between 5.25 and 5.2 can be a considerable cost difference

[littlesicily]

For those interested... I'm selling a 2ch BAE 1073MP w/ PSU in classified section for great deal...ex.condition...few months old, original packaging, etc.

[GYang]

I had both AMS and BAE gears during years.
Prefer BAE on impression that it is overall slightly better (we talk nuances on great pres) and for some unexplainable reason even more reliable.
Wouldn't consier 1073 in 500 format, that I never particularly liked (except for very few devices never released in 19 racks size).
Aurora is very serious option, as well as, Rupert Neve line of pres (I find them way more usable than 1073 in wider number of applications, but if you need 1073 o 1073)

[mahasandi]

I have 2 1073lb's good pre's.
Im geeting a 2ch bae mp in here to compare i'll let you know my opinion

[enzee]

I just picked up two Vintech 573s and I can't say enough about them. Wow!

[E.rOk.stA]

I owned a BAE 1073MP until I got to A/B it with a Neve 1073DPA. before I say anything else, the BAE is awesome. It's 3D with a bottom end that is BIG. I was using it for rap/singing vox though and found myself EQing that bigness out during mixdown.

When I tried the DPA I found it not as big in the bottom and more present in the upper mids. I tried to replicate that presence using the BAE with EQ but couldn't.

The Neve got vocals closer to how I want them so that's what I chose in the end. Does the LB have it? I don't know.

[ssprod19]

over the years, I've tried all the 1073 and "clones", including vintage, Neve re-issue, BAE, Chandler, Great River, Vintech, etc, and landed on the Aurora. It just had the extra sizzle that appealed to my ears. Props to Mr. Tanner for a great product

[insomnio]

Originally Posted by GYang

I had both AMS and BAE gears during years.
Prefer BAE on impression that it is overall slightly better (we talk nuances on great pres) and for some unexplainable reason even more reliable.
Wouldn't consier 1073 in 500 format, that I never particularly liked (except for very few devices never released in 19 racks size).
Aurora is very serious option, as well as, Rupert Neve line of pres (I find them way more usable than 1073 in wider number of applications, but if you need 1073 o 1073)

This is the reason I read Gearslutz. There are always non biased people with lots of experience.

[Micfallon]

Originally Posted by mahasandi

I have 2 1073lb's good pre's.
Im geeting a 2ch bae mp in here to compare i'll let you know my opinion

Sooooo ????

[insomnio]

Originally Posted by mahasandi

I have 2 1073lb's good pre's.
Im geeting a 2ch bae mp in here to compare i'll let you know my opinion

2nd that. C'mmon, share