26th August 2002
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#1 | | Gear nut
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Thread Starter | publison infernal machine 90
who knows more about this piece? i found only few informations about it. seems to be a 24 track sampler with pitch shifter.
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#2 | | Craneslut
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It's an effect box. Kinda like an old 480L in that it has dual 'machines' (2 pair stereo channels). Cool device. We have two of them around and they are *always* in use.
They sell for $1500-$2000 on eBay in good working condition.
Pray that you never need service. They repair gear about as fast (not) as Burgess at Sontec...
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#3 | | Capitol Studios Paris
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Yeah, I think you have to send it to the manufacturer in France. It took them almost a year to repair one for a friend of mine. He thought he'd never see it again.
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#4 | | Lives for gear
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I don't know very much about it..... but imho it is not a sampler. It is a multi fx processing machine. I believe one of the first, if not THE first to use digital processing.
I think it does everything from delays, chorus/flangers , pitch / harmonisations , reverbs , echos ... etc etc ....
Probably has some kind of sampling function integrated to use realtime together with their FX processing ..... sampling delays
I also know that although it is old, there's still people holding on to them because they are supposed to be good. I saw a bunch of them one time in a rack .... some experimental studio group doing contemperary music and using it to create the weirdest live effects. The brussels opera has two of them but they hardly ever use them I think. This is the kind of stuff probably the IRCAM in Paris can tell you more about.
Every time I have seen them they had something to do with experimental music, which makes me think that they must be able to do some realy strange stuff. At least for those days ....
I also think that they were VERY EXTREMELY expensive .... think someone told me once that a full option one, was like 15.000$ back in the early and mid 80's
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#5 | | Gearslutz.com admin
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I invented a sound using one that was the the signature drums sound on Siouxsies & the Banshees "Cities in Dust". It was an Ambience program (gated) with a phaser inserted between the send and the Publisons input.
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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Jon...it took a year & you live there!!..used to be the best pitch corrector...no one could demo it like 'Pierre' (i think) as he is an accomplished singer...but they filed all the chip numbers off to prevent being 'Berringer-ed'
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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| Re: publison infernal machine 90 Quote: Originally posted by jagarinec who knows more about this piece? i found only few informations about it. seems to be a 24 track sampler with pitch shifter.
thanx | I have a couple. The sampler aspect is great if you're doing drum replacements and you are living in 1988.  It's really the other aspects of the machine that make it worthwhile to own. Every piece of gear has a sound to it and to me the IM-90 adds a musical quality to whatever is being processed by it. It's pretty easy to use and can be run as dual mono or stereo. It's a 2 in, 4 out config, so you can get a mono in, stereo out on some programs. What it does best is reverbs and the pitch shift/delay programs.
Things to look out for when buying - make sure it's 100% functional and the seller knows how to pack a box well becasue right now, the only repair option is to ship it back to France.
It had a lot of options - the remote unit is actually very useful since it has all the front panel plus a rotary encoder which is a lot easier to use when incrementing/decrementing delay times, etc. Note that the remote needs a card in the machine as well as the remote head and cable.
Standard memory config was 5 seconds of delay/sampling per channel with options up to 5 minutes. Common expanded times are 22 seconds and 84 seconds per channel. It's a theory (currently under investigation) that if you have certain revs of the OS, more delay time is as simple as popping out the old RAM and popping in larger ones.
A very rare option is the SMPTE board.
MIDI was standard. The unit is very deep (physically and intellectually) and when you start reading the MIDI section of the manual lots of possibilities come to mind for creative uses. If you have tons of gear in your rack, you'll probably use this for some nice delays, ambiences, and reverbs and rarely get intot he very weird. However, it does reward exploration with astonishing sonic results.
hope that helps.
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18th October 2007
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#8 | | Gear Head
Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Vancouver
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| A nice box
I worked as service engineer for a large proaudio dealer back in the day who had one in rental stock. I had to keep it running and explain how to use it and consequently used it a lot.. It was about 15 to 20K$ (Can) with all the options, if memory serves. May have had the SMPTE option. I had to service it several times. I remember an insane number of TTL logic chips, 74HCT's, (some scraped) on two large heavily populated PCBs, making up what would later be a one to five chip typical processor system in other similar high-end boxes. No service manual or schematics. I recall phoning France and walking through the troubleshooting process with my very poor French and the Publison guy's non-exsistant English. Somehow we prevailed. Several times. As I recall it sounded God-like, seriously good and the user interface wasn't too bad. The switch membrane on the front was shyte, as all of them were. The verbs were great and the pitch shifting way better than Eventide at the time. Just a great neutral, pleasent, non-hyped sound. Once in a while you run across a piece of audio gear that just has "it". Whatever that particular gumbo might be........
The TC Electronics2290 is another such box and I use mine, even to run guitars through with delay at zero. Just puts glass on the top end. The low bit/ 1mHz sampling rate does some kinda magic? I haven't seen a IM 90 in a while but would probably chew my own leg off for one. Any out there, ready for a new home?
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18th October 2007
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#9 | | Harmless Wacko
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Loved.
Nothing else sounds like it.
Best regards,
SM.
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18th October 2007
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#10 | | Gear maniac
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back in the day (1998-2001ish) I assisted a mixer that used to swear by the IM90. We used it exclusively as a micro pitch shifter on vocals.
mono FX send => Dolby A 360 encoder (in "record" mode)=> Publison IM90=>Stereo Return or faders
Bling! instant smooth, magical bigness & sparkle
Backstreet Boys, Britney, R. Kelly...all things Jive records.
If the Publison was in the shop (often) 2nd choice AMS DMX, 3rd choice H3000 micropitchshift
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#11 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by auddoc Just puts glass on the top end. | That's a great description. It was THE +8/-8 pitchshift sound back in the day. Nothing really compares. It had a classy "sheen" to it.thumbsup
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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I call it the Prince -O- Verb.
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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ya - for me it was the 1.003 / .997 , 1 ms thing - on tons of stuff. it was its own vibe for sure. does anyone know of a plugin that comes close to this sound at all?
id actually use pitchshift a lot more again if i could find this sound.
thanks
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#14 | | Lives for gear
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Man , I used to get the biggest kick out of that weird French dude who would demo the Publison for hours on end at AES, etc. Had kind of a an afro hairdo and always wore an ill-fitting sports jacket. Straight out of an old (which means good) Woody Allen movie.
He would stand there holding some off-brand microphone, singing some pretty awful sounding jazz/scatting, comprised solely of the syllables "Weeee" and "Waaaa". Kinda like Weeee-waaaaa-weee-weee-waaaa-waaa-waaa. Can you hear what I'm sayin'? OMG, it was bad.
But that's actually the good news, because his demo schtick was to crank the Publison to parallel 4ths above and below his note. As you can imagine, the summation of all the above on a sad little hand-carry PA system was....... special.
The guy just killed me. Happy as a tick on a fat cow doing his thing, oblivious as to how awful it sounded. So bad, it was actually greatness. And you had to admire his tireless enthusiasm. I never failed to catch his "act" at the show. I would drag people over there, against their will. Probably accidentally sold some gear for him.
Just thought I would share. Anybody remember the moment with me?
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surely there is a video of this guy. Youtube it! I need to see this!
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#16 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Sep 2004 Location: West Haven, CT | Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianT Man , I used to get the biggest kick out of that weird French dude who would demo the Publison for hours on end at AES, etc. Had kind of a an afro hairdo and always wore an ill-fitting sports jacket. Straight out of an old (which means good) Woody Allen movie.
He would stand there holding some off-brand microphone, singing some pretty awful sounding jazz/scatting, comprised solely of the syllables "Weeee" and "Waaaa". Kinda like Weeee-waaaaa-weee-weee-waaaa-waaa-waaa. Can you hear what I'm sayin'? OMG, it was bad.
But that's actually the good news, because his demo schtick was to crank the Publison to parallel 4ths above and below his note. As you can imagine, the summation of all the above on a sad little hand-carry PA system was....... special.
The guy just killed me. Happy as a tick on a fat cow doing his thing, oblivious as to how awful it sounded. So bad, it was actually greatness. And you had to admire his tireless enthusiasm. I never failed to catch his "act" at the show. I would drag people over there, against their will. Probably accidentally sold some gear for him.
Just thought I would share. Anybody remember the moment with me? | HA....Brian I can see that guys face like it was yesterday. But additionally, correct me if I'm wrong. didn't that guy OWN the company? I think he did.
The Publison was one of those "driven by one guys vision" type companies that got pushed aside in the rush to digital in the 90's and early 2ks. I actually see more of those guys coming back now...the boutique dudes.
I only used a Publison on one project. My Eventide never quite seemed as cool after that.
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#17 | | Lives for gear
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I own 2x publison DHM 89 B2 machines and love em.... fixed one myself....
BUT cca 3 months ago bought 3x IM 90 for bargin.... nonworking
fixed one .... first day i got em
fixed second a month latter
for third I need cpu pcu that was missing in rack!! .. if anybody have..let me know
so I had 2 working recaped awesome sounding IM 90 and a box of spare in third IM 90
I sold one to friend and all we can say is WOOOOW
it have better reverbs than my 480L its one KILLER BOX.. we bouth love it!!!
pitchshifting is perfect and very musical
and sampling.. thumbsup
detected most of problems and ic codes (that publison sanded away) in box and I can say .. IM 90 is keeper FOREVER .. I JUST LOVE IT!!!
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#18 | | Lives for gear
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Mr. Publison was Peter Dean, I think.
A real character
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#19 | | Harmless Wacko
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A lot of common problems seen in used IM90's are as simple as recapping the PS.
The range of seemingly unrelated aberrant behaviors this can cure approaches bewildering.
Still using our IM90's most every mix.
Hilariously great box.
SM.
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#20 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by BrianT Man , I used to get the biggest kick out of that weird French dude who would demo the Publison for hours on end at AES, etc. Had kind of a an afro hairdo and always wore an ill-fitting sports jacket. Straight out of an old (which means good) Woody Allen movie.
He would stand there holding some off-brand microphone, singing some pretty awful sounding jazz/scatting, comprised solely of the syllables "Weeee" and "Waaaa". Kinda like Weeee-waaaaa-weee-weee-waaaa-waaa-waaa. Can you hear what I'm sayin'? OMG, it was bad.
But that's actually the good news, because his demo schtick was to crank the Publison to parallel 4ths above and below his note. As you can imagine, the summation of all the above on a sad little hand-carry PA system was....... special.
The guy just killed me. Happy as a tick on a fat cow doing his thing, oblivious as to how awful it sounded. So bad, it was actually greatness. And you had to admire his tireless enthusiasm. I never failed to catch his "act" at the show. I would drag people over there, against their will. Probably accidentally sold some gear for him.
Just thought I would share. Anybody remember the moment with me? | Un, deux, trois. Remember the reverse audio demo? My friend that worked at Power Station, who spoke French, was actually authorized to work on them. Always a high point at AES
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#22 | | Gear maniac
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just about my fav reverb and pitch shifter ever. 4th dimensional in every sense. i never found any reverb i liked apart from taking my gear into old cathedrals until i was luckily introduced to this. maybe i will posy some videos up of mine in action. a true sound phenomenon...
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#23 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by BrianT Man , I used to get the biggest kick out of that weird French dude who would demo the Publison for hours on end at AES, etc. Had kind of a an afro hairdo and always wore an ill-fitting sports jacket. Straight out of an old (which means good) Woody Allen movie.
He would stand there holding some off-brand microphone, singing some pretty awful sounding jazz/scatting, comprised solely of the syllables "Weeee" and "Waaaa". Kinda like Weeee-waaaaa-weee-weee-waaaa-waaa-waaa. Can you hear what I'm sayin'? OMG, it was bad.
But that's actually the good news, because his demo schtick was to crank the Publison to parallel 4ths above and below his note. As you can imagine, the summation of all the above on a sad little hand-carry PA system was....... special.
The guy just killed me. Happy as a tick on a fat cow doing his thing, oblivious as to how awful it sounded. So bad, it was actually greatness. And you had to admire his tireless enthusiasm. I never failed to catch his "act" at the show. I would drag people over there, against their will. Probably accidentally sold some gear for him.
Just thought I would share. Anybody remember the moment with me? | Yes...it was the best show in town.
He fancied himself as a lounge singer...i rode out to the NAB one year next to him & his daughter
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