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15th February 2006, 09:59 AM
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| Purple Audio Biz, Neve-ish or API-ish ? Well, i'm going to order my pair of Purple Audio Biz pres in a few days. I'll use it for drum room mics (with Royer ribbons), heavy guitars, sometimes overheads or snare, and maybe bass and vocals. I do already own API pres, and i want something more "creamy", "open" and "clear sounding", maybe more Neve-ish. The Biz has an interesting knob that can add amount of color, and also has a lot of gain, which is good to use with ribbons. How would the Biz compare to Neve ? Will it be more close to the API sound ? If you have advice on choosing others API lunchbox rackable pres, please give it (Shadow Hills comes to mind, and also A-Designs, but I have to wait a long time to get the pres, and I need them quick since I have important sessions soon). Thanx. |
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15th February 2006, 04:10 PM
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| Where are you Purple Audio Biz and A Designs users ?  |
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15th February 2006, 04:40 PM
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| I can't specifically answer whether or not it sounds like a Neve....I can say you'll probably be very happy with it and it makes a nice contrast with a 512.
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15th February 2006, 04:44 PM
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| If you already have an api 500 style rack you could also check out Old School Audio.They are very much like api but the mutant Lundahl transformer model has a sweet hi end and big low end on it that takes it beyond api .Thats the one I still want to get. The purple seems like it would be cool too, although I haven't heard it or the other pre you ask about. Stace |
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15th February 2006, 05:20 PM
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| I just got a Biz to contrast my APIs. The little I've used them so far I can say for sure they are more "open" and "clear sounding". Not so sure about "creamy" but the dang thing has got loads of different textures, it's like a treasure hunt. It seems to me generally more smooth in the mid-range then API, not as aggressive. Never used a Neve :(
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15th February 2006, 05:47 PM
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| Thanks guys, that helps! |
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15th February 2006, 06:26 PM
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| I would agree with whats been said so far... The Biz to my ears is tough to classify. I guess it has more of an API vibe but it has several different sounds depending on how hard it's pushed.It can be open when run clean and pretty aggressive when driven. The DI is cool too.
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15th February 2006, 07:31 PM
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| Well, i have to say i've been very happy with my biz. It has a very wide range of sonic textures between the normal and dual gain modes. I would also agree that it is a very open sounding pre, with the option of very clean or dirty. |
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15th February 2006, 07:55 PM
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| Yup, what Rickrock and Saucyjack said. For more good descriptions, check this thread: http://gearslutz.com/board/showthrea...ght=purple+biz |
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15th February 2006, 07:58 PM
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15th February 2006, 10:19 PM
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i don't own an API, but have used them a couple times. I would definitely agree with this statement in that the Purple pre really is a different animal altogether versus Neve/API. | |
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16th February 2006, 09:49 PM
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22nd February 2006, 02:55 PM
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| Thanks ! I just ordered a pair of them  I can put the hand on an audio extract of the Biz that I was able to listen from GS a few weeks ago. Anyone, an idea where to search ? |
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30th May 2008, 01:57 AM
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 I agree with that except for the latest Rupert Neve Designs - I hear a similar hazy color comming from both, but that's it really. | |
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30th May 2008, 04:29 AM
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| If you want "Neev-ish" check out the Vintage Designs "M-581"... if you want "API-ish" check out the API 512c... if you want a great all around pre-amp that sounds like a Purple Audio "Biz" check out the "BIZ MK"... it's a unique sound with unique functions that is truly remarkable. Peace.
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30th May 2008, 04:46 AM
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| The Biz is a really sick pre. I am always surprised at how little i see it talked about on this board. I don't think you will be disappointed.
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30th May 2008, 08:43 AM
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30th May 2008, 09:09 AM
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30th May 2008, 09:14 AM
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| I would just get more of the same pres!  Apis can do everything. Maybe more mics?
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30th May 2008, 05:13 PM
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| I have 2 of the Purple Biz pres. for drum room mics, I love the Purple. You can't compare them to Api, Neve etc., They're in a class all their own. I highly recommend them. |
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30th May 2008, 05:52 PM
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| Honestly, I would classify them closer to the Pacifica more so than API or Neve. But then again, they have their own character and are very versatile. So yeah, they do sound unique, but I can usually come pretty close to matching the sound of a pacifica by keeping it in normal mode and tweaking the input/output ratios.
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30th May 2008, 06:39 PM
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| Everyone is pretty dead on with their descriptions of the Biz, it's hard to beat for a versatile do anything pre. If Neve is what you crave, the Avedis MA5 is king IMO. Although it's not a Neve clone it has the Texture of a 1073 and fills the same hole. The 28k feature really opens it up on top. Kick, Bass, Guitar, Vox whatever, the MA5 rocks them all. I have 2 Biz, 2 MA5, 2 OSA MP-1 and an API 512; it's a pretty diverse palette of sounds to work with. I frequently wish I had more of one or the other depending on the session, but I haven't really needed a sound that one of them wasn't capable of producing. |
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3rd June 2008, 12:27 AM
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| I woudn't compare the biz to anything... is just a useful tool with class , something like gml with aditional distortion |
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3rd June 2008, 01:43 AM
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| Did anyone else realize this thread was from a couple of years ago? |
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3rd June 2008, 02:28 AM
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3rd June 2008, 03:12 AM
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 ..It doesn't add any "sheen" to the top end, but still it's clean up there... I still wanna hear a MA-5 tho"......(YMMV
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3rd June 2008, 06:39 PM
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| What is wrong with MA5s, they are Nevish bigtime, i like OSA-C over API on drums tho. Everybody sound own some OSA pres.
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3rd June 2008, 10:09 PM
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4th June 2008, 03:42 AM
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| I used the Biz tonight in a session for acoustic guitar and vocals and it totally beat out the API and Neve Pres for male baritone vox. much more top end than the api, but less mid forward (so i would still stick to API for drums), and we just automatically used the Neves for stereo micing the guitar, as we only had one biz, so can't compare it there.
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