Nail on the 2Buss Settings

ROCKER STUDIOS · 12th March 2011

Anyone want to share their settings on the Nail when mixing into it on the 2 Buss
Type of music=
settings =

Im mixing a Rock CD and I just keep tweaking it and Im getting close but i have not quite Nailed it (pun intended) yet

Tony Shepperd · 12th March 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROCKER STUDIOS

Anyone want to share their settings on the Nail when mixing into it on the 2 Buss
Type of music=
settings =

Im mixing a Rock CD and I just keep tweaking it and Im getting close but i have not quite Nailed it (pun intended) yet

I would give you my settings but theres no need to, they come in the manual.
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ruff mix · 12th March 2011

I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but I really hope that people begin to understand that there's no such thing as a magic setting that works for any specific genre on any specific piece of equipment. Yes, there is a sweet spot, but it's usually song specific. This is especially true on the mix buss. I understand the manual gives a particular setting that's a good starting point, but they admit that it's nothing more than a starting point and that it would need to be changed/altered.

In fact, if I remember right, in his book Zen and the Art of Mixing, Mixerman mentions that mixing is an art in chasing your tail, and that it is no more readily understood than on setting compression settings on the mix buss.

I think you'd be better served studying how to appropriately set a compressor (in other words, learning best practices for compression-setting), and then apply that to your work. Best wishes.

**Let it be known that I'm not suggesting that you are asking for a magic setting or that you don't know how to set a compressor. I'm speaking in generalities so that others reading this won't be led to believe things that aren't true. If the shoe fits, I hope this helps, if not, please don't take offense...that wasn't my intention.

ROCKER STUDIOS · 13th March 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff mix

I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but I really hope that people begin to understand that there's no such thing as a magic setting that works for any specific genre on any specific piece of equipment. Yes, there is a sweet spot, but it's usually song specific. This is especially true on the mix buss. I understand the manual gives a particular setting that's a good starting point, but they admit that it's nothing more than a starting point and that it would need to be changed/altered.

In fact, if I remember right, in his book Zen and the Art of Mixing, Mixerman mentions that mixing is an art in chasing your tail, and that it is no more readily understood than on setting compression settings on the mix buss.

I think you'd be better served studying how to appropriately set a compressor (in other words, learning best practices for compression-setting), and then apply that to your work. Best wishes.

**Let it be known that I'm not suggesting that you are asking for a magic setting or that you don't know how to set a compressor. I'm speaking in generalities so that others reading this won't be led to believe things that aren't true. If the shoe fits, I hope this helps, if not, please don't take offense...that wasn't my intention.

No Magic settings I work many compressors the Nail is a bit different than most Just looking for some of the user's Starting points taking me a bit to get used to the Hard Threshold
(all sounds are good) some better than others Just looking to compare some notes

mmplisskin · 26th March 2011

Ive found that most of the the times when Im nailing the 2 bus my settings are usually anywhere from 2-7 on the attack and release and the hard threshold is from off to +7(estimation), Mix 2-3, filter 50-180, gain 5.5, The nail also seems to work really well on non 2 bus material... I track vocals through it with a faster attack, slower release, and no filter. It can also sound really nice when pushed just a little on certain things although im not sure if this is good practice for a hybrid unit.

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ruff mix Gear Head Joined: Jan 2009 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 63	Mix buss compression I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but I really hope that people begin to understand that there's no such thing as a magic setting that works for any specific genre on any specific piece of equipment. Yes, there is a sweet spot, but it's usually song specific. This is especially true on the mix buss. I understand the manual gives a particular setting that's a good starting point, but they admit that it's nothing more than a starting point and that it would need to be changed/altered. In fact, if I remember right, in his book Zen and the Art of Mixing, Mixerman mentions that mixing is an art in chasing your tail, and that it is no more readily understood than on setting compression settings on the mix buss. I think you'd be better served studying how to appropriately set a compressor (in other words, learning best practices for compression-setting), and then apply that to your work. Best wishes. Let it be known that I'm not suggesting that you are asking for a magic setting or that you don't know how to set a compressor. I'm speaking in generalities so that others reading this won't be led to believe things that aren't true. If the shoe fits, I hope this helps, if not, please don't take offense...that wasn't my intention. __________________ Ryan Ruff ruffmixstudio ProTools Editing, Mixing, Mastering info@ruffmixstudio.com http://www.ruffmixstudio.com Subscribe to my blog, "The Mixdown."** http://www.ruffmixstudio.com/themixdown/bloghome.php Last edited by ruff mix; 12th March 2011 at 03:05 PM.. Reason: clarification

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26th March 2011	#5
mmplisskin Gear maniac Joined: Jan 2010 Location: San Francisco-LA Posts: 158	Ive found that most of the the times when Im nailing the 2 bus my settings are usually anywhere from 2-7 on the attack and release and the hard threshold is from off to +7(estimation), Mix 2-3, filter 50-180, gain 5.5, The nail also seems to work really well on non 2 bus material... I track vocals through it with a faster attack, slower release, and no filter. It can also sound really nice when pushed just a little on certain things although im not sure if this is good practice for a hybrid unit.