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Old 10th February 2006   #1
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Electrical Audio, obviously, but from what I understand, people frequently bring in PT rigs.

Tiny Telephone in San Francisco is the same deal, as well as Key Club in Chicago.

I don't see the point in "not allowing" digital as its a perfectly valid tool and very much in demand. Seems like it would hurt business. At the place where I work, we have 2 HD rigs as well an A827 and JH16 and tons of analog gear, enough that I am currently doing a record without even touching digital. The analog vibe is totally there, but we have plenty of digital when we need it. The band still respects our "analog creds." Its not like they see PT and think that we're not legit, you know?
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Yes there is, a studio in England called Toerag

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Analogue to the last nut and bolt, it appears that they even wear white lab coats, white shirt and thin black tie and have the obligatory pens in coat pocket. I wouldn't be surprised if they used brilcream on their hair and have thick black horn rimmed glasses.

This place is stuck in the 70's, very umm 70's.
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At the place where I work, we have 2 HD rigs as well an A827 and JH16 and tons of analog gear, enough that I am currently doing a record without even touching digital. The analog vibe is totally there, but we have plenty of digital when we need it. The band still respects our "analog creds." Its not like they see PT and think that we're not legit, you know?
As well as it being pretty ridiculous unless you are only going to do vinyl runs of your music.
We have a 2" Studer- often bounce off the tape and then into Protools, especially live drums.
It sounds great, tightens everything up.
I couldn't imagine working all analog again though.
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I use digital effects and have a RADAR, but also 2 2" and one 1/4" machines. I often do projects without the RADAR, or use it as a mix back-up. I'm almost there. There's a plate manufacturer near me o that may bring me closer.
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Why won't you have CD players?

Sear Sound in NYC for the last 40 years or so. Haven't seen Walter for a while, but the place is very well maintained:

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I think it's a bad idea, nobody uses cassettes anymore and I think your clients will be bummed to leave with their mix on format that they can't even listen to in their car on the way home. Bite the bullet and keep a CDR around for those that would like to hear their days work.
But seriously, if you want to be able to RUN 100% analog, you can advertise that way, but be sure to have some DAW to at least lay back to so the clients can work on their music at home before they come back to mix at your place.
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Key Club has a protools rig.

I think an (almost) all analog studio is a great idea, pricey, but, if you've got the money. ..

Still, though, I'd reconsider the "no protools".
DAW's are a great thing. There has always been poor talent, and the public has always had bad taste. It ain't the computer's fault.

I'm getting off topic...

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Analog is great if the band is great.

There have been times (like now) that I've had projects that would be well suited to analog recording, but most of the time I would be pulling my hair out (like I used to ).
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Try WaveLab in Tuscon. I was just there, all analog, great tone! WaveLab is Craig's place, the guy that runs the Tape Op Conference for Larry and John. I was VERY impressed and had no idea of just how good he was!
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I'm thinking, one of these days when I hit the big money I want to put together a completely retro studio with no digital equipment allowed. 2" multi-track, 1/2" 2 track, and nothing but springs, plates and actual reverb chambers. What you do with the analog master once it leaves the studio is your business.

Are there studios out there set up like this?
make sure the electricity to your studio is not regulated by any digital means- you don't want to tarnish /hinder/hamper ... christmas hamper ... with leg of ham your analog quest in any way now ....
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My place is all analog. I have a masterlink to make cds for people but mix to an Ampex and track to 2". yet when you say High End . . .I think of Avatar / Right Track etc. They of course would have PTs for clients. I would say there are MANY middle ground studios (like mine) that are all analog. Many of us still feel it's superior and have no interest in computer recording. Not going to get in a debate over that, just offering some info to you per your request.
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There will be another all analog 1" 8 track studio in the very near future. The only digital gear I have is a CD burner. Construction on this Wes LaChot designed studio should be completed within a year and in addition to all the equipment I've already obtained I'm working on acquiring the entire contents of a mothballed studio from the early 60s (Ampex 350-8, Langevin 116b 12 X 3 tube console, EMT 140, UA 175 comps, Scully lathe, etc.).

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If you want retro why not contact Jim Devito at retrophonics in Boyton Beach FL he is one of the nicest guys and has gobs of great analogue gear that he uses. 2" tape, neve board he has the works and hates PT.
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Any "retro" studios in Nashville by any chance?
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I think its kinda shooting yourself in the head if you want to make money, why not have both?I can tell you it works great for me.
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I went to the site and went to the gear list. I was surprised to see the Masterlink in such an "all analog" studio. Then I went to the pictures section....hahahahah. A sign over the masterlink that says garbage.

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That's priceless.
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if you've read that thing about guns n roses, just think how much tape they would have gone through if they would be recording it all on tape and saving it all...geez, that would be crazy to index and keep track of
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Yes there is, a studio in England called Toerag

******//www.toeragstudios.com/cover.html

Analogue to the last nut and bolt, it appears that they even wear white lab coats, white shirt and thin black tie and have the obligatory pens in coat pocket. I wouldn't be surprised if they used brilcream on their hair and have thick black horn rimmed glasses.

This place is stuck in the 70's, very umm 70's.

Well, that would be the 1960's, not the 1970's, dude.
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Any "retro" studios in Nashville by any chance?

Isn't RCA Studio B still all original "retro"?
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At the "high end" I can't imagine that there are enough cleints who want to stay all analog from start to finish to keep a room booked full time. Cetrainly not enough cleints in one city.

At the high end, there are too may produciton techniques that at the bare minimum require a track or two in protools or they'll want to mix to a digital format or something.

I'm sure people can come up with a a few exceptions. The advances of the White Stripes' Elephant was on vinly, and I beleive they claimed the whol produciton/mix path was analog. There are probably a few other projects out there like that, but not enough to keep a room booked full time.

People will bring their own digital systems or rent one.
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We've got Protools as well. However, myself and a number of the Prod/Engs that call Gravity home prefer to stay analog the whole time -- does that count? Neve 8058 --- Studer 827 --- ATR 102 --- cant go wrong.

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My home studio: Ampex 2" 16/24 -> ATR 102 1/2" or 1/4"
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If you are in a rather "art-minded" area, I don't believe you'd find much trouble.
Look at what they're doing over at Electrical Audio...moreso...look at how little they're charging for daily rates. I believe they pulled the smarts by having two seperate live rooms/control rooms (one for the bulk of the community, one for the fancy three month lockouts). I understand that Albini is the draw, but most of the customers aren't paying for albini, they're just taking advantage of the giant live room and the vintage gear.

I guess, a way to circumvent the expensive cost of 2 inch tape for many customers would be to offer the option of 8 track recording. Many of the indie-rock cats will be more than accustomed to hearing 1/4 inch recordings. ?
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A bit OT but can anyone recommend a carpenter that does not use power tools?
Thanks.
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A bit OT but can anyone recommend a carpenter that does not use power tools?
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The Amish ... no nails either.
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As long as you go without the additional deck modification, the process is pure old school.
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Good to see true art is never lost.
Next, can someone find me a place I can record through a magnaphone connected to a needle cutting straight to wax cylinder?
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