secret tip! how to improve your ITB mixes!

[Reptil]

Originally Posted by Kiwiburger

Walters is the thinking mans guru of Pro Audio.

you're right. he's back LOL

[toolskid]

just for giggles why doesn't ANYONE with nintendo do the bounce with and without and post the files??? Then we can all null or not to our hearts content....




ps: BBB....Radish was ok..but Horseradish messed with my gain structure main... too hot...the Wasabi I tried blew my VUs outta the mountings

[blaugruen7]

yes!
i seriously want to hear AB comparison.
please!

[Matt Grondin]

Originally Posted by joeq

What hopes and dreams are those? Are you saying Rigo's "hopes and dreams" were to convince the forum that heard something magical happen to his sound by changing the color on his monitor? We crushed his hopes and dreams by joking about his unsupported allegations?

There's a simple cure for all the jokes:

do the bounces, post the files, or send them to Lynn, or do rockum's blind test:

Leave the room- have some one set it to grey or color and turn off the computer monitor - then come back in and see if you can reliably pick which one it is.

I guarantee you that if Rigo had posted in his first post that "in a blind A/B/X test we got it right every time" or "the bounced files failed to null" there would be few snarky comments and lots of people would be seriously helping him look for an answer.

I doubt that Rigo is going to quit the business because the gearslutz are joshing about his find. I wager his hopes and dreams are intact. But if you want to be taken seriously with a claim like this, do the tests.

Insisting on scientific methodology is not cynicism.

Hello, please learn to take a joke... my comments were referring to the fact that almost every single person had something that was either funny, smartass, or just plain cynical to say about his find. If I had Nuendo, I would probably one of those people as well, but I don't really care. My post was poking fun at all of us, including myself. Lighten up my friend.

[popkid]

Originally Posted by cajonezzz

I did the null test!!!!


Ok, I don't know what that is, but I did bounce a green track and a yellow track and I got-


(drum roll)




a Shitty Brown!



Sounded crappy too.

You must have gotten the wrong shade of brown then. Rupert Neve´s classic shade, "Neve-brown", just sounds great IMHO.

[John The Cut]

Originally Posted by Lagerfeldt

BTW, a mix in Logic Pro (32 bit float) with faders in unity clipping the output 9.5dB above 0dBFS and then lowering the master -9.5dB, and a mix with all faders down -9.5dB from unity and the master at unity... willl... wait for it.. NULL when played with flipped phase.

One of the nice things about a 32 bit float system.

The only useful piece of information in this thread so far

[lordmiguel]

Originally Posted by mogWai

The only useful piece of information in this thread so far

useful? perhaps scientifically factual (i didn't test), but i dunno if very useful. as a humans guaranteed to make mistakes, mix this way enough times and you're bound to clip your plugs. unless you're not human, in that case go for it.

[Reptil]

I'm not. I'm reptillian.

MHOAHAHAHAAAA

[whitepapagold]

Originally Posted by Bishbashbosh

Maybe Jim Williams can do a gray to grey mod on your LA2A...... worth every penny (cent) in my opinion.

Now thats funny!

[Lagerfeldt]

Originally Posted by lordmiguel

useful? perhaps scientifically factual (i didn't test), but i dunno if very useful. as a humans guaranteed to make mistakes, mix this way enough times and you're bound to clip your plugs. unless you're not human, in that case go for it.

It's useful in the sense of knowing that your audio won't be compromised by either way of mixing, meaning you will be more free to concentrate on mixing than on technical issues like headroom in the mix engine.

[toolskid]

anyone up for the a/b?

[djui5]

Originally Posted by toolskid

anyone up for the a/b?

Yeah, the 4 way. One with one color and original power cable, one with original and new power cable, one with new color and original power cable, and one with new colors and new power cable (this one should sound like a million bucks!)

[John The Cut]

Originally Posted by Lagerfeldt

It's useful in the sense of knowing that your audio won't be compromised by either way of mixing, meaning you will be more free to concentrate on mixing than on technical issues like headroom in the mix engine.

Yes, thats what I meant. Its good to know that if you do go over, just pulling the master fader down a dB or 2, is equal to pulling a the channels down a bit. I've read a lot of debate about it and just a quiet little post like this from someone who actually DID THE TEST is very informative

[hourglass]

Originally Posted by AdamJay

this means your DAW is inferior.
use a different one.

Amen to that - exactly what I was thinking.


[EDIT]

I should have waited to post until I read the whole thread. At least I managed to spew the pepsi I was drinking back into the bottle rather than all over my monitor.

[/EDIT]

ryan

[Jax]

Originally Posted by Bishbashbosh

Personally I find my mixes sound much better with a large number of carrotts in the room.

Carrots provide diffusion and tons of vitamin A. How could your mix NOT sound better with tons of beta carotene in the room?

[Reptil]

I have yet to see a completely weird post of our valued slut lagerfeldt.
I know he can do it, but there is just too much useful info there in his brain...
just concentrate, you can do it! LOL

[RichT]

Am I actually going to have to do the A/B test tomorrow???

I don't wanna.

If I find out that my mixes in colour would of sounded so much better in monochrome my clients are gonna kill me.

I'm going to ignore this thread.

I'm putting my fingers in my ears now and singing 'la la la la la'

...

Alright, I might do an A/B...

[toolskid]

go on you know you want to!!

[Lynn Fuston]

Am I mistaken or did Rigo disappear as soon as we started asking for copies?

Maybe he's busy reprinting all his mixes from the last five years in monochrome.

[toolskid]

Originally Posted by Lynn Fuston

Am I mistaken or did Rigo disappear as soon as we started asking for copies?

Maybe he's busy reprinting all his mixes from the last five years in monochrome.

LMAO

[whitepapagold]

Originally Posted by Jax

Carrots provide diffusion and tons of vitamin A. How could your mix NOT sound better with tons of beta carotene in the room?

Dont forget that beta carotene enhances eye sight. Hmmmmmmmm. Now Im seeing the connection. Beta carotene- eye sight, eye sight- colors, colors- mixing, mixing-great sound.....etc. Man, I should have worked on Johnny Cochrans legal team for OJ, " If the carrot doesn't fit, you must aquit" or even better "if the carrot doesn't fit, you aren't hearing sh*t"

[C.Lambrechts]

move or lock ? coin flip ... LOCK it is.