Avalon VT-747 SP Anybody have to say something about this

andre tchmil · 27th July 2003

Avalon VT-747 SP .

Any good for stereo buss sweetening ?????
I'm doing mainly heavy rock stuff.
cheers

Neve Sucks! · 27th July 2003

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Originally posted by andre tchmil

Any good for stereo buss sweetening ?????

Not really....

e-cue · 27th July 2003

Apperently Jon Gass uses on on his 2 mix, quite sucessfully. When I tried it out I was on a rock project. My impression was that it would be better suited for R&B / Rap style of music.

Coldsnow · 27th July 2003

Love love love the eq, the compressor is not my favorite.

Screws · 27th July 2003

EQ is outstanding. Smoother than buttah. Compressor is the touchiest most frustrating thing I've ever worked with for 2 buss. I've used the comp successfully on bass, vocals and drums using Fletcher's side-chain idea. Here is his post.

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FWIW... with the 747... I generally find the "note" of the kik and the snare with the side chain EQ [with the side chain EQ in the audio path... once I've found the 'note' of the kik and snare, I then remove the EQ from the audio path], and drop the kik and snare notes a couple db from the compressor's detector... then run a few db of gain reduction on the drums... I may add a little sparkle to the cymbals, pull [or sometimes push] a little of the midrange stuff, and will often add a tad of extra bottom to the drums coming from the compressor.

I will return the 747 on an additional pair of faders and blend them with the original drum sound to taste.

Obviously, your mileage and tastes will vary when you set up the 747... overall, I have found this to be an absolutely wonderful tool for the job of "tightening" up the overall drum sound... again YMMV.
_________________
Fletcher
Mercenary Audio

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S. Cruz
Florida

duaneadam · 27th July 2003

As a stand alone mastering compressor-eq, I find it falls short in some areas, particularily the compressor. As one tool in the chain, I like it and use mine all the time.

The high end of the EQ is the sweetest feature of the 747 in my opinion. Avalon should market just that last lever (32khz I think)
as an instant air tool. (forget the rest of the EQ just gimme some air).

I don't like the bottom end as much and usually use it for shelving only.

The tube path is also nice for thickening some instruments.

Duaneadam

jazzius · 27th July 2003

I don't rate that compressor very highly......eq sounds pretty nice

Wiggy Neve Slut · 28th July 2003

The EQ is the best part of this box... The comp sucks ass.... it like the 737 comp is nothin special imho given the great name avalon has with most people.............. HOWEVER... when the comp is placed AFTER another compressor such as my fave Al Smart... its a weapon! the faster and punchier the better. Fletcher recommended the API 2500 in that role, i am yet to try it but im sure it would kill regardless.

And yes... Avalon should market the EQ alone!

Regards
Wiggy

dchen · 28th July 2003

It's also Michael Brauer's favorite compressor on the 2 mix. I just got one this weekend but I havent had a chance to play with it too much, just the graphic eq a little which is really nice.

jbuntz · 28th July 2003

I think avalon already has a couple standalone eq's. A regular one and a "mastering" version.

27th July 2003	#1
andre tchmil Lives for gear Joined: Sep 2002 Location: always on the move Posts: 750 Thread Starter	Avalon VT-747 SP Anybody have to say something about this Avalon VT-747 SP . Any good for stereo buss sweetening ????? I'm doing mainly heavy rock stuff. cheers

28th July 2003	#8
Wiggy Neve Slut Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 2,205	The EQ is the best part of this box... The comp sucks ass.... it like the 737 comp is nothin special imho given the great name avalon has with most people.............. HOWEVER... when the comp is placed AFTER another compressor such as my fave Al Smart... its a weapon! the faster and punchier the better. Fletcher recommended the API 2500 in that role, i am yet to try it but im sure it would kill regardless. And yes... Avalon should market the EQ alone! Regards Wiggy __________________ If i see another 'Which neve clone is better thread... im seriously gona go postal!!!!!!!"

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27th July 2003	#3
e-cue Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 4,069	Apperently Jon Gass uses on on his 2 mix, quite sucessfully. When I tried it out I was on a rock project. My impression was that it would be better suited for R&B / Rap style of music.

27th July 2003	#4
Coldsnow Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 743	Love love love the eq, the compressor is not my favorite.

27th July 2003	#5
Screws Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 733	EQ is outstanding. Smoother than buttah. Compressor is the touchiest most frustrating thing I've ever worked with for 2 buss. I've used the comp successfully on bass, vocals and drums using Fletcher's side-chain idea. Here is his post. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ FWIW... with the 747... I generally find the "note" of the kik and the snare with the side chain EQ [with the side chain EQ in the audio path... once I've found the 'note' of the kik and snare, I then remove the EQ from the audio path], and drop the kik and snare notes a couple db from the compressor's detector... then run a few db of gain reduction on the drums... I may add a little sparkle to the cymbals, pull [or sometimes push] a little of the midrange stuff, and will often add a tad of extra bottom to the drums coming from the compressor. I will return the 747 on an additional pair of faders and blend them with the original drum sound to taste. Obviously, your mileage and tastes will vary when you set up the 747... overall, I have found this to be an absolutely wonderful tool for the job of "tightening" up the overall drum sound... again YMMV. _________________ Fletcher Mercenary Audio ---------------------------- S. Cruz Florida

27th July 2003	#6
duaneadam Gear maniac Joined: Apr 2003 Location: Silicon Valley CA Posts: 249	As a stand alone mastering compressor-eq, I find it falls short in some areas, particularily the compressor. As one tool in the chain, I like it and use mine all the time. The high end of the EQ is the sweetest feature of the 747 in my opinion. Avalon should market just that last lever (32khz I think) as an instant air tool. (forget the rest of the EQ just gimme some air). I don't like the bottom end as much and usually use it for shelving only. The tube path is also nice for thickening some instruments. Duaneadam

27th July 2003	#7
jazzius Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2002 Location: Amsterdam.....The Netherlands Posts: 593	I don't rate that compressor very highly......eq sounds pretty nice

28th July 2003	#9
dchen Gear interested Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 5	It's also Michael Brauer's favorite compressor on the 2 mix. I just got one this weekend but I havent had a chance to play with it too much, just the graphic eq a little which is really nice.

28th July 2003	#10
jbuntz Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,716	I think avalon already has a couple standalone eq's. A regular one and a "mastering" version.