20th January 2011
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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Buss Comp
If you had $1700 to spend on 1/2 of your buss Compressor what would you buy and why
Another words you buy 1 channel(mono) that can be linked Now and buy another channel Later
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20th January 2011
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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What two mono compressors are you thinking of putting on your mix?
I'd say trakkers but they're a bit over 1700 each.
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20th January 2011
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by dhiltonlittle  What two mono compressors are you thinking of putting on your mix? | Been eyeballing the Chandler Grem
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20th January 2011
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#4 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by dhiltonlittle What two mono compressors are you thinking of putting on your mix?
I'd say trakkers but they're a bit over 1700 each. | Need to keep it
1700-1900
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20th January 2011
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#5 | | Gear addict
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| I'd buy a Drawmer 1968 (stereo or 2 channel, good on master buss, killer on drum buss, low cut sidechain switch, tube driven colour when needed/if wanted),
or a TK Audio BC1 (clean SSL clone, but with added slightly more refined up-to-date sound, low cut sidechain switch, wet/dry mix control for instant parallel compression, faster and slower attack times & gentler and meaner ratios than the original SSL),
or a TF Pro P38 EX (4 comp "modes" and very different flavours/behaviours, slamming on drums, has wet/dry mix control and MS stereo center/sides treatment)
- and even manage to save several hundreds in doing so!
Would be a bit wary of 2 mono comps on my mix buss, and knowing it quite well, the (very colourful and odd but versatile) Chandler Germanium would NOT be something I'd use on a mix buss - more of a character, instrument tracking & mixing channel compressor in my opinion & experience.
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20th January 2011
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by andreaeffe I'd buy a Drawmer 1968 (stereo or 2 channel, good on master buss, killer on drum buss, low cut sidechain switch, tube driven colour when needed/if wanted),
or a TK Audio BC1 (clean SSL clone, but with added slightly more refined up-to-date sound, low cut sidechain switch, wet/dry mix control for instant parallel compression, faster and slower attack times & gentler and meaner ratios than the original SSL),
or a TF Pro P38 EX (4 comp "modes" and very different flavours/behaviours, slamming on drums, has wet/dry mix control and MS stereo center/sides treatment)
- and even manage to save several hundreds in doing so!
Would be a bit wary of 2 mono comps on my mix buss, and knowing it quite well, the (very colourful and odd but versatile) Chandler Germanium would NOT be something I'd use on a mix buss - more of a character, instrument tracking & mixing channel compressor in my opinion & experience.
Kind regards,
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F | Good stuff I was kinda looking for Mono that can be linked so I could use it for tracking also
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20th January 2011
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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good suggestions above, wouldn't buy a mono either if the goal is bus work.. I see that you have some very good mono comps already
Foote Control P3S, Daking Fet III, Roll Music RMS755 would also be on my radar with your budget.
Api 2500, SSL etc. on the used market.
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20th January 2011
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#8 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom H good suggestions above, wouldn't buy a mono either if the goal is bus work.. I see that you have some very good mono comps already
Foote Control P3S, Daking Fet III, Roll Music RMS755 would also be on my radar with your budget.
Api 2500, SSL etc. on the used market. | Interesting so The Candler Grem with a link switch is not as good as a Buss Comp I was also looking at the Nail Like the API 2500 but I also want 2 separate Comps for trackinng
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20th January 2011
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#9 | | Gear Guru
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Originally Posted by ROCKER STUDIOS Good stuff I was kinda looking for Mono that can be linked so I could use it for tracking also | The Drawmer is stereo or dual mono, so you can still use it for tracking one or two mono instruments.
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20th January 2011
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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SSL mixbus
Roll RMS755
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20th January 2011
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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What is your recording medium? If you're in Pro Tools, you can run the inserts for subgroups and use mono or stereo analog comps there, and use something like the SSL bus compressor plug-in via a Duende. It's very effective.
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20th January 2011
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#12 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2005 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne, United Kingdom
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Second for Chandler Grem, also Drawmer 1969 is proper pumping!
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20th January 2011
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#13 | | Gear nut
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Zürich
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i would go for a retro sta! Great for tracking: Vocals, bass, even drums come out real BIG and on the 2Buss oooh my good!!! stike
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31st January 2011
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#14 | | 500 series nutjob
Joined: Nov 2004 Location: 500 series Guru SKANK! ; )
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i would try to get into a A-Designs HM2 NAIL.
i love this beast!
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31st January 2011
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by pan60 i would try to get into a A-Designs HM2 NAIL.
i love this beast! | I did and so far so good. To tell you the truth i have only ran programed materiel threw it but it made that even sound better cant wait to mix threw it . Have you done any tracking threw it and how did that work out for Ya
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31st January 2011
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#16 | | Gear maniac
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I've tracked bass and vocals through the Nail and had awesome results!!
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31st January 2011
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#17 | | 500 series nutjob
Joined: Nov 2004 Location: 500 series Guru SKANK! ; )
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i like the BAC and the API 527 for tracking but i do use he NAIL as well.
great on vocals, or really anything: )
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31st January 2011
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I've tested the TK Audio BC-1. Sounds very good and is not too expensive.
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1st February 2011
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#19 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by ROCKER STUDIOS I did and so far so good. To tell you the truth i have only ran programed materiel threw it but it made that even sound better cant wait to mix threw it . Have you done any tracking threw it and how did that work out for Ya | I track through the Nail all the time... it excels as a tracking comp.
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1st February 2011
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#20 | | Gear interested
Joined: Oct 2008 Location: White Plains NY
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Ive been digging the Chandler Grems on the mix buss.
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1st February 2011
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#21 | | Gear addict
Joined: Nov 2004 Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by Portcity Ive been digging the Chandler Grems on the mix buss. | After a good three or four months, I'm enjoying the Germs on the 2-bus as well. Took me awhile to find my way...but feeling more comfortable with them now.
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1st February 2011
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#22 | | Lives for gear
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To answer the original question, I believe that Bob Katz still uses two Cranesong Trakkers for bus duties. This would be a versatile pair. I've also heard good things about the Daking FET IIs for this application.
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1st February 2011
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#23 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by ROCKER STUDIOS Good stuff I was kinda looking for Mono that can be linked so I could use it for tracking also | just use one side of whatever stereo box you get...or, in the case of the API2500, daisy chain them while tracking for a really cool effect. You gotta be able to get a 2500 for your price range these days.
The mono/stereo link thing is great, but I wouldn't want it on a buss comp, because almost no boxes link every parameter, including output, which is sort of a big deal. That said, I've used EL8's linked as a stereo buss comp with great success, but I had to use a signal to line them up, and they weren't very close knob-wise.
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1st February 2011
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#24 | | Lives for gear
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| Pair of Daking Fet II's
Very versatile for stereo buss AND cutting. Why limit yourself to "just for mixing"? I don't own anything that's "just for mixing."
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1st February 2011
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#25 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by rdraudio Very versatile for stereo buss AND cutting. Why limit yourself to "just for mixing"? I don't own anything that's "just for mixing." | Its funny to hear people say thats my tracking comp and this is my mixing comp!
It makes me think damn this is one expensive hobby!
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2nd February 2011
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#26 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2009 Location: Santa Cruz
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Thread Starter |
I have been very happy with my Nail alto I have not had it long enough to give a detailed review Now I have a second Dragon coming that should be fun for Drum and Mix Buss
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2nd February 2011
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#27 | | Gear nut
Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Philly
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+1 for the Drawmer 1968
Great on mix buss and for tracking....
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2nd February 2011
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#28 | | Gear Guru
Joined: May 2008 Location: Mountain View, CA
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Originally Posted by Audio Child Its funny to hear people say thats my tracking comp and this is my mixing comp! It makes me think damn this is one expensive hobby! | You kidding, some comps I'll only use on channels that will be panned left or right, because they just sound better on left or right side channels. Some comps I'll only use on songs that are in a specific key. See these are the super-secret things that separate the pros from the wannabes.
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2nd February 2011
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#29 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Dec 2010 Location: The Other London
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Originally Posted by Dean Roddey You kidding, some comps I'll only use on channels that will be panned left or right, because they just sound better on left or right side channels. Some comps I'll only use on songs that are in a specific key. See these are the super-secret things that separate the pros from the wannabes. | Well if we're giving these secrets away..... I only use the nail to compress reverberations panned to 3 o'clock and with HPF set for 400Hz. Anything above or below gets a different comp
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