Stupid question about Drawmer products

cap217 · 3rd January 2006

What is the difference in the 1960 and the 1969? I know the obvious answers but the actual differences.... also is the compressor on the 1960 hybrid or fet or tube? I know the pres are all tube, is the compressor like the compressor out of the 1969 or the 1968 (same)??

GearHunter · 3rd January 2006

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Originally Posted by cap217

What is the difference in the 1960 and the 1969? I know the obvious answers but the actual differences.... also is the compressor on the 1960 hybrid or fet or tube? I know the pres are all tube, is the compressor like the compressor out of the 1969 or the 1968 (same)??

This is best answered by Fletcher...where are you, oh Guru of the Boards?

I can tell you this, whatever it is, it sounds way better than any 1960 I ever heard. Was using my 1969 all weekend on mix-buss. Yummy!

nosebleedaudio · 3rd January 2006

The 1960: Mic pre is not tube at all, the compressor section is hybrid.
WWW.jmkaudio.com

GearHunter · 3rd January 2006

I think in the original 1960 it's a chip-transistor mic-pre and what in the compressor is tube, I don't know. Maybe only the make-up gain is tube, which is definitely the case in the 1969. The 1969Merc has an improved mic-pre, using better chips. There are some cool better features in the compressor, too, including a better stereo link feature and the "big" button. It's an overall better circuit. I think the only thing unchanged from the 1960 to the 1969 is the DI. I always thought the 1960 DI was pretty decent, especially for bass guitar.

The 1968 is the compressor section from a 1969Merc...no mic pre or DI.

Am I right? Pretty sure I am....

nosebleedaudio · 4th January 2006

I was looking at the schematic so I would not be dependent on memory, a total of 3 tubes, one in the compressor section, mic pre contains 4 transistors driving your basic 5532.

Fletcher · 4th January 2006

This link should cover your question ******//mercenaryeditions.com/drawmer1969.shtml if it doesn't lemme know and I'll see what I can do to clarify whatever you want to know.

I will say that we gutted the 1960 except for the meters, power transformer and DI box and started from scratch... the 60 and 69 are totally different products.

3rd January 2006	#1
cap217 Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,008 Thread Starter	Stupid question about Drawmer products What is the difference in the 1960 and the 1969? I know the obvious answers but the actual differences.... also is the compressor on the 1960 hybrid or fet or tube? I know the pres are all tube, is the compressor like the compressor out of the 1969 or the 1968 (same)??

4th January 2006	#6
Fletcher member no 666 Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 10,108	This link should cover your question *****//mercenaryeditions.com/drawmer1969.shtml if it doesn't lemme know and I'll see what I can do to clarify whatever you want to know. I will say that we gutted the 1960 except for the meters, power transformer and DI box and started from scratch... the 60 and 69 are totally* different products. __________________ CN Fletcher Professional Affiliations: R/E/P Professional Recording Engineer and Producer forums - serious hobbyists welcome SoundPure.com mwagener wrote on Sat, 11 September 2004 14:33 We are selling emotions, there are no emotions in a grid Roscoe Ambel once said: Pro-Tools is to audio what fluorescent is to light

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nosebleedaudio Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL USA Posts: 3,700	The 1960: Mic pre is not tube at all, the compressor section is hybrid. WWW.jmkaudio.com

3rd January 2006	#4
GearHunter Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,578	I think in the original 1960 it's a chip-transistor mic-pre and what in the compressor is tube, I don't know. Maybe only the make-up gain is tube, which is definitely the case in the 1969. The 1969Merc has an improved mic-pre, using better chips. There are some cool better features in the compressor, too, including a better stereo link feature and the "big" button. It's an overall better circuit. I think the only thing unchanged from the 1960 to the 1969 is the DI. I always thought the 1960 DI was pretty decent, especially for bass guitar. The 1968 is the compressor section from a 1969Merc...no mic pre or DI. Am I right? Pretty sure I am....