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| Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2004
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Thread Starter | A question to Wagener about micing the bottom of toms
Hi! I've seen pictures and read every now and then that you like to mic both top and bottom of your toms for moore resonance. I just wondered how you mix this... Do you mix both mics with same or different levels/eq? Do you tune beater and bottom heads the same or the bottom a little higher? merry x-mas, btw |
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| High End Moderator Joined: May 2002 Location: Music City USA
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Yes I like to mic the top and bottom of toms. The bottom head is usually tuned different from the top head, depending on which effect I want to achieve but mostly slightly lower than the top. The bottom mic is of course polarity reversed. Once I have a good place for the top mic, I have my assistant move the bottom mic slowly to and from the head until the bottom end (tone) sounds nice and fat. The two mics get mixed together onto one track and normally the bottom mic is at about 75% of the top mic. The reversed polarity has the added effect of keeping some of the other drums out of that track.
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| Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2004
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Awsome, thank you very much! So, you mix them into one track....wich means same EQ settings, right? I guess 75% of the top mic would mean someting like bottom mic -3 db or something, at least as a starting point? ...now, the bottom head lower in pitch, that's intresting!! Allways had them a tad higher for moore attack or same exact pitch..... hope i'm not asking too many questions here... .., but do you ever compress your toms individually or as a subgroup? |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2004
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So, a bit lower....like a semi-tone, tone, minor third? This will be very cool trying out on next project | |
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| Gear addict Joined: Mar 2005 Location: Germany
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Shouldn`t it read "a question to Mr. Wagener" or something like that ? Since Michael Wagener is the real name and no nick, it would just be polite to say Mr.? No offense, just asking... |
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| member no 666 Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Durham, NC
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Heir Wagener is too kind... I just did the bottom heads so they dropped like a 4th... "bah-oom" was the vowel sound I was going for [the "oom" about a 4th lower than the "bah"]. Fresh heads, a great kit, an excellent room and a serious motherfukker drummer didn't hurt our chances of getting some useable sounds from the instrument. I remember we used pretty heavy heads on the tom bottoms on that gig, white coated Remo "Ambassadors" on the tops... an Evans "Hydrolic" (sp?) on the bottom of the floor tom and black dots on the bottom of the racks [I think there were two... but there has been many gallons of alcohol consumed between then and now and unlike Michael, I don't remember every session I ever did... hell, I barely remember the gig I was on last night except that the tutonic lack of groove the song possessed was cured by a couple out of time delays and some general ****about with the bass timing... but I digress].
__________________ CN Fletcher Professional Affiliations: R/E/P Professional Recording Engineer and Producer forums - serious hobbyists welcome SoundPure.com mwagener wrote on Sat, 11 September 2004 14:33 We are selling emotions, there are no emotions in a grid Roscoe Ambel once said: Pro-Tools is to audio what fluorescent is to light |
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| Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2004
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Mr. Wagner and Mr. Fletcher, thank you so much for pushing me in the right direction! I hope you both will have a great New Years Eve! Best wishes from me... |
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