Focal VS NS 10s... wow I forgot what I was missing...

[pan60]

i have some CMS 50's in for a review, and my yamies are just not cutting it next to these.
but i do like the Yamaha's.

[Doc Mixwell]

Even The CMS 50's make the NS-10 [with even the best amplifier] sound like do-do straight from my bung hole. Are you kidding? ITS ONLY MID RANGE REFERENCE. Those @#$%^&*( don't sound GOOD??????

[pan60]

Originally Posted by Roc Mixwell

Even The CMS 50's make the NS-10 [with even the best amplifier] sound like do-do straight from my bung hole. Are you kidding? ITS ONLY MID RANGE REFERENCE. Those @#$%^&*( don't sound GOOD??????

what do you mean

Are you kidding?

i said

my yamies are just not cutting it next to these

i have several other Monitors that kick the Yamaha's in the back side!
i have never been a fan of the the NS-10's but they are what they are.

[mdjice]

They are good To use as you would use auratones, towards the end to check the mix. For hip hop pop and rnb they definitely dont cut it anymore

[HomeProducer]

Originally Posted by mdjice

NOTHING!!!! I've been mixing with my Twins for a couple of years now and My ns10s have been unplugged since then.
I went next room where the NS10s are the main nearfield because we were mixing this project in 2 rooms at the same time (rush job) and I had a listen to one of session on the yams, I was cutting 3 dbs around 550hrtz and...I couldn't even hear the difference!!!?? it was litteraly guess work! I got so used to the extreme precision of the Twins in the low mids that I forgot not every speakers are like that... i could never go back to mixing on NS10s it's like painting with your eyes closed. a 3db boost or cuto the focal is a big difference, clear and easy to hear, on the ns10s I couldn't even tell...Long Live my Focals !! I just mixed 13 songs on them in 3 days and the label approved all the mixes right away... I'm not bashing them really, I use to mix entirely on them but now that Im used to how precis the focals are in the low mids and details.. my Ns 10s are only here for decoration

There is a reason for you to worry :D

I can even hear a 1 dB boost on the NS 10s (or less).

maybe one room is treated and the other is not? Or you have a dip at 500 Hz due to the room? There are many reasons.

[drew]

Originally Posted by mdjice

......... I got so used to the .............. the Twins

with a little edit, you answered your own question!!!


There are people that make SLAMMING mixes on NS10s.

[dannygold]

YMMV but I find the NS10s an insanely helpful reality check. True they are pretty mid rangey, but so are lots of things people listen on. I know it's a cliche, but they really do reveal flaws in the midrange of the mix that other speakers don't show. I've heard edit clicks on NS10s that were NOT evident on much better systems. Don't know if it's because of the frequency response, or the NS10s propertied phase coherence and fast transient response or what, but it's very real (for me).

[warhead]

The NS10 was a bookshelf speaker for home stereos that skyrocketed to popularity because it turned out Bob Clearmountain was using them as a reference on tons of hits he had been mixing. The Radio Shack Minimus 7, Apple desktop computer speakers and others have been thrust into a magic box status by many who hope that they will hear what those mixers are hearing and improve their mix results as well.

The real deal is that a speaker must make sense to you and it must make you work in a way that is productive and translates well.

I have to say, I'm with you...the Twins are still amazing me with the speed at which I can work and the fact that I don't really have to check them on multiple systems anymore. My brain digs them and interacts with them well.

I never liked the NS10, but I have dug things like the Alesis Monitor Ones (original grey ones, passive) and even the Mackie HR824 for a time...and once I learned them I was able to do decent things as well. Not as fast and as accurate as the Twins, but certainly decent.

I dunno, NS10 suck in my opinion but they work for a lot of people. I don't consider them revealing in any particularly good way that I need them to be I suppose.

Congrats on realizing the Twins are rocking hard for you, I have never advocated jumping around on monitors as we're all better off picking a speaker and learning it and sticking with it. I sure am glad thus far to have settled on the Twins...

War

[api2500]

They work for me, they work for my mixes.

It wasn't just Bob Clearmountain, they were rocking around before him but once he had them, people forgot their own opinions.

I don't mind the sound and my mixes translate well on them. They are seriously tight and haven't found anything quite as critical as them yet...

[u b k]

Still lovin' the ns10's here, perhaps more than ever. thumbsup


Gregory Scott - ubk