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Old 2nd December 2005   #1
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Chandler hype or the best

Man I reading lots of Chandler threads on mainly this forum. Why hasn't anyone compared the Ldt-1 to th ams-neve 1073? What is the difference between the tg-1 and the mkII ?
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Tg1 is a limiter and a MKII is a pre/eq. TG2 is two pres no eq. TGMKI is similar to the MKII but the MKII has a more flexable eq.

LTD-1 is a Neve clone and shares similar qualities of it's counterpart, but has a more flexable eq over the 1073. If you search, there's a gazzilion threads on the subject of 1073 clones.
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Believe the hype. The Chandler LTD-1 is absolutely amazing. Especially on Vocals. Big and Fat!
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which Chandler is the the most used for Rock guitar?
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one of our better session guys ..DanWarner uses the TG2 and Royer/414 combo
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which Chandler is the the most used for Rock guitar?
TG-2 = A killer

The new Germanium Pre is on the way from Vintage King, can't wait to try it.

Yes, the hype is true i.e it isn't hype but the truth.

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TG-2 not mark II right? MKII wouldn't as good?

Can anyone state their opinion how the ltd-1 compares to the ams-neve?
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TG-2 not mark II right? MKII wouldn't as good?

Can anyone state their opinion how the ltd-1 compares to the ams-neve?
Well, it is pretty much the same thing except that TG2 is a dual preamp, while the MkII (which refers to the Chandler Channel, I assume), is a preamp/EQ.

But they preamp part of the two is supposed to be exactly the same...

Pretty much like the difference between the Neve 1073 Reissue and the Neve 1073 DPA.




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so Tg-2 mkII is a lot more cash, I just went on the site and looks as is the TD2 mkII has a better eq? Is that right?
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The TG-2 is just a stereo preamp, while the TG Channel has the same preamp Plus a great Eq, but in mono.
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TG2MKII is in mono? So it is one channel or two?
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from the "Beatles-pre" thread:

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Chandler just released a germanium based mic pre with a compressor on the way. Whoopie!
Yes, and I just checked it out for the first time at the studio. Initial opinion after a first test with a Royer 121 on electric guitar:
The Germanium kicks ass. It has a certain 3D depth that makes the sound come alive and creates a cool atmosphere around the sound without sounding roomy. It's really hard to describe. The TG-2 has a bit more harmonic content (that's why I LOVE this box) and seems a tiny little bit brighter in the upper midrange.

I feel the Germanium will be a great pre for digital recording, it has balls to no end. It has a "Feedback" knob, which thickens the sound, but I didn't have anough time yet to mess around and find out exactly what it does. There is also a "Thick" button that adds a lot of balls to the sound. Lots of sublte and not so sublte changes with different knob combinations. Very nice mic pre, and as usual with the Chandler stuff it has lots and I mean lots of color. Can't wait to try it on other sources.

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one of our better session guys ..DanWarner uses the TG2 and Royer/414 combo
Dan Warner ?? what a HACK !!!!!!!!




just kidding. fabulous guitar player. I'd say the 'first call' guitar player down there. great guy. But I think he's using the LTD-1 and not the TG2...

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TG2MKII is in mono? So it is one channel or two?
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TG2MKII is in mono? So it is one channel or two?
No!

As, I explained earlier, there is the TG2 and there is the TG Channel.

When people talk about the MkII they refer to the TG Channel.

TG2 consists of two preamps, while the TG Channel has one Preamp + an EQ section.

There is no such thing as TG2 MkII!


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ok gotcha, I posted that last comment at 4 am-wasn't too clear I guess
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I used the Chandler Germanium last night on guitars, very nice. Big and warm. I shot it out against:

BAE312
LDT-1
737
Trident S20
TG Channel

with a 57 up the cone of my 4X12. The two best were the Germanum and the 312. Personally, I like the 312 best.
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I used the Chandler Germanium last night on guitars, very nice. Big and warm.
James, if you have any chance of reporting back on other Germanium takes (vox would be perfect) I`m all ears! Especially compared to other pres like the LDT-1 and TG-Channel.
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I used the Chandler Germanium last night on guitars, very nice. Big and warm. I shot it out against:

BAE312
LDT-1
737
Trident S20
TG Channel

with a 57 up the cone of my 4X12. The two best were the Germanum and the 312. Personally, I like the 312 best.
Maybe because of the 57
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Here's some quick samples from last night. Please forgive the endless noodling, we didn't plan on posting these, so my assistant was just chilling playing this lick over and over...

Tele>Marshall>4X12>SM57>

Germanium: ******//www.jameslugo.com/sounds/7-germanium_01.mp3
BAE312: ******//www.jameslugo.com/sounds/7-312_02.mp3
LTD-1: ******//www.jameslugo.com/sounds/7-ltd_03.mp3
737: ******//www.jameslugo.com/sounds/7-737_05.mp3
TG: ******//www.jameslugo.com/sounds/7-tg_04.mp3

no eq or compression.
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no eq or compression.
or gain.. how can you tell what the pre's sound like with such a plinky guitar sound?

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I could hear it instantly. The wave forms are good. Listen to what is there. It was the bast I had for gearslutz.

I've been tracking guitars for years in the same room, so it was clear from the first note!
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The Germanium sounds hotter than rest, is that just a gain mis match between the files? Or does it sound that much hotter in person?

That's the new Chandler unit yes? How do you like it compared to the LTD and TG, what distinctions can you draw that makes the Germanium different. Have you tried it on other sources yet?

So many questions! I'm just very interested in that Germanium at the price point they have it at...
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I could hear it instantly. The wave forms are good. Listen to what is there. It was the bast I had for gearslutz.

I've been tracking guitars for years in the same room, so it was clear from the first note!
you might as well record talkback slates then.. I thought germanium had a lil more character but it doesn't matter.. where did you set the feedback knob and thick switch? you could make 10+ files of just the germanium with all the variables involved.. and the guitar sound is NOT relevant to a real mix... so what's the point?
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It was guitar day so that's all. The Germanium was very loud. We just fired it up for a half hour to hear it. I didn't want to use it on the sesson because I knew it would be leaving that night and I didn't want to establish a sound I couldn't use throughout.

The Germanium was the new Chandler. It's a beautiful pre for the money! I played with it for a while, those mp3's were just personal recordings for me, so I could hear the other pres against it.

To my ears the Averill and the Germanium were the best. The 312 was faster and more alive and real sounding. The Germanium had a nice kinda warm mojo. The LTD had a weird midrange thing that just wasn't workin for me but I never like it on electrics. The TG always sounds a little light for my taste as did the 737.
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Guys, there was plenty of gain applied to all takes. Not sure what you're hearing, but I was there. This wasn't an official shoot-out. It was more of a whim. We had the unit in our possession and wanted to give a listen while it was here. Nothing more, nothing less. We were tracking guitars and decided to take a break and hear what this thing was all about. Perhaps, this wasn't the best testament to the unit and in no way should this be construed as THE BIG TEST. We only had intentions of integrating the Germanium into the tracking session last night.

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The Germanium is a different animal all together. You can get a whole bunch of different tones out of it. It is very sensitive and when recording electric guitar (read = loud) you might want to push the pad in. I get the best results and most color by driving the front end pretty hard and bringing the Feedback down to adjust the output volume. I also like the "Thick" button "in" for heavy guitar.

We also used it on a Randall RM20 small combo amp (15W) with a clean-ish kind of tone (similar to AC/DC guitars) with a Reslo ribbon mic and it sounded awesome, full and round, but still very defined.

Havent tried it on a lot of other sources yet, but we will for sure put it through it's paces during the next workshop at the end of January
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I think it was thick and fat without being merky or unclear. The top was wonderfull! Best subsonic thump out of the bunch... Amazing.
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Germanium hands down. warmth.. can you say warm... makes the others sound steril.
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