Sony DMX-R100, Still a buy?

[TML Hautzy]

I have not heard the yami, but I think the reasons people rave about the sony are:

Awesome Dynamics
Good Pres
Good Converters
Better workflow (than tascams which i have used)

I dont ever look for time based effects in my consoles, they say the jack of all trades is the master of none

[eleo]

Originally Posted by Tube World

I am curious why there has not as much discussion on the Yamaha Dm 2000. To me it's a big step up from the Sony. I spent some time at Sam Ash Pro (when it was around in NYC) were I compared the 2 for hours. Not only is there nicer scribble strips and work flow, buy 4 effects per channels, better converters, etc. Granted the stock Eq was not as good as the Sony, but once version 2 came out with the updated effects, improved work flow with Daw's I thought there would be more excitement on the forums. It's the same price as the SSL Matrix but it also offers 24 pre's, Eq, compressors on each channel plus effects. What am I not getting or not understanding about this product?

Maybe its a matter of taste. While the Sony was in repair, I had the DM 2000 for a month in my studio, wired to my set up. so plenty of time in comparing.

My conclusion was that I only liked the higher number of channels and the Monitor output converters on the Yamaha better.
Everything else the Sony sounded way better to me, especially the converters.

[Tube World]

Originally Posted by eleo

Maybe its a matter of taste. While the Sony was in repair, I had the DM 2000 for a month in my studio, wired to my set up. so plenty of time in comparing.

My conclusion was that I only liked the higher number of channels and the Monitor output converters on the Yamaha better.
Everything else the Sony sounded way better to me, especially the converters.

What did you think of the work flow of the Dm2000? Scribble strip on each fader, larger layout, more I/O, metering, having reverb built in? I hear what your saying though some of the differences are subjective and you may like some things better on the Sony. It's a great unit too.

[paolon]

Got one for sale including Madi Card. :-)

In Germany though...


SONY DMX R100 INCL. MTBK R109 Madi Karte!! AB 1

PS: i woudn't sell it if i didn't need the cash.

[drew]

Originally Posted by Tube World

What did you think of the work flow of the Dm2000? Scribble strip on each fader, larger layout, more I/O, metering, having reverb built in? I hear what your saying though some of the differences are subjective and you may like some things better on the Sony. It's a great unit too.

I use a DM a lot and owned a DMX from 2001-2004.

Yamaha's stuff seems to be designed by guys in lab coats, not engineers.

Scribble strip? Stored with each I/O setup, not each Scene where they'd be WAY more useful.

The channel EQ sucks. Only 4 bands total, which means as soon as you use Filters, you've got a 2 band EQ. IMO it doesn't have any "umph", and it seems to take 6dB to "hear" anything. Why skimp on such an integral part of the engineer's palette?

Dynamics section isn't Automat-able except with Library recalls. Minor, but why do it that way?

And no VGA out????? Crazy.

Don't get me wrong, it's amazing the technology that they packed into this thing. Kudos for that, but it's a souless piece IMO. The DMX had a lot of flaws but it felt right.

[salomonander]

Do not buy!

[Tube World]

Originally Posted by salomonander

Do not buy!

I agree the standard Eq is nothing to write home about but with version 2 software and the updated effects I thought they sounded as good as many UAD plug INS I have heard.

[s.d.finley]

In an earlier post I was contemplating using the DMX as a sidecar for PTHD as inputs..... Well I have a band over this weekend and decided to do it!!

Doing this recording at 88.2khz and I am enjoying the sound. The dmx pres are slaying the ones in the C/24. I know, big surprise right!!!

The EQ and dynamics are coming in handy. I do miss using the DMX...

[musicprogirl]

All Help is appreciated.
Is there a way to do a self test on the DMX and what's a good price for one now? In Great shape and in poor shape?

I was just offered a DMX version 2.01 for somewhere between $2000- $2900. It has 3 adat cards and a DMBK-R103.
It's in rough shape physically, (not cared for at all) and I'd really like to test it thoroughly before I buy it.
They left it on for 24 hours and it's still running. Seems like all works but one channel.
The screen shows all fader and knob physical changes but only 1 button on top of touch screen works. (I'm going to read the manual to see if it's just not set or something).

I've read through every thread I can find and I love what everyone says about the sound and features. I know it's obsolete but I'm hoping it can replace my control 24 with Pro tools 9 which is supposed to be friendlier with other consoles.
I haven't used the c24 much and I like how easy the dmx seems to be learn.
Thanks Again!

[musicprogirl]

Hi,
I'm still contemplating buying the one in rough shape physically.
But am trying to figure out what would be a good deal. I want one of these boards so if someone can tell me what would be a good deal if I was buying this one as a parts board?
That way when it folds I can "hopefully" purchase one in great shape and use this one as spare parts.
Thanks!

[Nick Morris]

Well, I can tell you that about six months ago I sold my DMX that I had since 2002 for $6500. It included the madi card and 3 aes/ebu cards. It was flawlees, never had a problem whatsoever. I really took extremely good care of it over the years and feel like the amount I sold it for reflected that. If I was purchasing one for parts, I would be expecting south of $2000. I really hate buying anything in rough shape, but with your intentions if you could nab it for $1500 it would probably be a no brainer.

[s.d.finley]

Buy mine!

[burst]

anyone still looking for a DMX-R100 should send me a note, too... we'll be selling ours as we make some moves in our main room over the next couple of months.

loaded with 3x 8ch optical boards and 1x analog insert board, I think. I can confirm for you, obvs... it's been a while since I popped the hood.

it's been working flawlessly since 2002... just time to move on here. make me an offer.

[KungFuLio]

Originally Posted by musicprogirl

Hi,
I'm still contemplating buying the one in rough shape physically.
But am trying to figure out what would be a good deal. I want one of these boards so if someone can tell me what would be a good deal if I was buying this one as a parts board?
That way when it folds I can "hopefully" purchase one in great shape and use this one as spare parts.
Thanks!

fwiw pm me! I will be selling one in excellent condition at the end of the month.

[musicprogirl]

Originally Posted by Nick Morris

Well, I can tell you that about six months ago I sold my DMX that I had since 2002 for $6500. It included the madi card and 3 aes/ebu cards. It was flawlees, never had a problem whatsoever. I really took extremely good care of it over the years and feel like the amount I sold it for reflected that. If I was purchasing one for parts, I would be expecting south of $2000. I really hate buying anything in rough shape, but with your intentions if you could nab it for $1500 it would probably be a no brainer.

Thank you for the advice. Now I have an idea of what it's worth rough.
Thanks again.

[chriscasino]

DMX R-100 w/ madi owner here (to RME HDSPe Madi Card/MacPro)

I love mine...specifically, the sound (pres and converters), workflow, dynamics (eq/comp), routing, automation. Looks great too!

This board can only be as "obsolete" as any other console worth it's converters.

If you are going to pull the trigger, Buy a well cared for DMX, preferably with MADI and/or AES EBU. This console may not control ProTools better than the C24, but it will SMASH it for anything else...

[s.d.finley]

Losing half of your i/o at 88.2khz or above kinda sucks. But if your are only doing 48k and below its unbeatable.

[PaulMac]

I got offered one in great condition for £1200 (about $2000) about a year ago. It seemed like a bargain and someone snatched it first, proving it was...

[Killahurts]

Was a great console. Loved it so much. The only way I could beat it after it died was with an SSL.

[Ksp]

just to bump this one whats the weakest part of these desks ? they are motherboard based ? and these can fry ?

It strikes me that the sony is a better sounding desk than the alternatives ( yamaha 02r / 02r96 / dm range / tascam range ) with a slightly more analogue sound but with one major defect......zero support but they are still repairable ? i guess the question is for how long .

Price wise £2000 max in the uk , i saw 2 sell for £1700 in london a while back with some boards in each , they are Very hard to sell at times as this is a gambling mans desk it seems.

Whats really f sad is they way companies develope these mixers and then just walk away , it feels a bit pathetic really when they probably invested years in development .

the only thing more depressing than the Sony Dmx story i think is the Mackie dxb one.

[Knobturner]

I have a Sony DMX r100 with 4 AES cards that I do not use anymore. I will let it go for cheap to the right selling situation. Meaning no out of country shipping. Email me if you're interested.
ericlegg1@mac.com

[s.d.finley]

Originally Posted by Ksp

just to bump this one whats the weakest part of these desks ? they are motherboard based ? and these can fry ?

It strikes me that the sony is a better sounding desk than the alternatives ( yamaha 02r / 02r96 / dm range / tascam range ) with a slightly more analogue sound but with one major defect......zero support but they are still repairable ? i guess the question is for how long .

Price wise £2000 max in the uk , i saw 2 sell for £1700 in london a while back with some boards in each , they are Very hard to sell at times as this is a gambling mans desk it seems.

Whats really f sad is they way companies develope these mixers and then just walk away , it feels a bit pathetic really when they probably invested years in development .

the only thing more depressing than the Sony Dmx story i think is the Mackie dxb one.

Part of the reason the dmx was dumped by sony was Rohs compliance. No Lead.
Power supplies are the main issues with the dmx. It has a power supply and a power regulator.