Spring reverb recommendations!?

[lovekrafty]

+1 on the Orban 111b, it,s basically 2 spring reverbs in one
I love mine.

I picked up one of these bad boys over the weekend
pretty awsome sound machine.

Knaster

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Cheers
LK

[Sounds Great]

Originally Posted by Steffmo

I have the Orban 111B...it gets some lone, especially for guitars.

I was also fond of the old master Room springs.

But the BX20 is the Cadillac of springs. Of course its so good you might not think its a spring.

Love my Orban. It is so organic sounding that it is hard to tell if it is too loud or too soft sometimes.

[NEWTON IN ORBIT]

Originally Posted by Steffmo

I have the Orban 111B...it gets some lone, especially for guitars.

I was also fond of the old master Room springs.

But the BX20 is the Cadillac of springs. Of course its so good you might not think its a spring.

Hey yeah, can you tell me more about those master rooms?

Are they different in design than other springs?

What I mean is, do they do have some crazily engineered thing going on like the AKG's?

Never used one.

John

[Steffmo]

I haven;t used a Master Room in a while, one studio I used a lit had the rack mount unit and it sounded quite good. I never used the big tower unit, nit buds always spoke well of it.

The tower is similar to the BK20. the BX20s trick is that the springs are suspended in oil to damp the pinging when hit by a transient, perhaps they are doing something similar.

To me there are two kind or springs, hi fi and lo hi. BX20s and Master Rooms are hi fi "use me on anything" boxes.

[pete]

I´m looking for a spring reverb too.. I have a space echo for lo-fi spring and now I´m looking for a more hifi spring thing.. BX10, BX20.. the problem is I dont have the space for a BX20 so BX5 or BX10 are my options.. what about rack units? is there any rack springreverb that sounds as good as a BX20/BX10?

[Jim Williams]

Originally Posted by MIKEHARRIS

I have asked my mad scientist designer (L J) to consider reverse engineering the Fairchild Reverbertron.

Anyone have one he can check out ? Used a simple compressor circuit to control decay.
Id be curious if any of you have tried using a LA2A or similar ahead of your spring

I used to build spring reverbs back in the early 1980's. I used Accutronic type 9 3 spring tanks. I used 2 per channel. They custom made the tanks with a reversed polarity magnet on the return coils. I wired them in series, out of phase to create a hum cacelling pickup design that was very quiet.

The drive coils were also wired out of phase. That lessend the fundamental and stopped much of the sprong.

To control decay time, I designed a one knob compress/expand circuit. Set in the middle was normal. To the left was expansion, that shortend the reverb time. To the right was compression, that would increase decay time. It worked pretty damn good, enough to get kudos from Doug Sax who used to master the laquers for me.

[NEWTON IN ORBIT]

Originally Posted by Steffmo

I haven;t used a Master Room in a while, one studio I used a lit had the rack mount unit and it sounded quite good. I never used the big tower unit, nit buds always spoke well of it.

The tower is similar to the BK20. the BX20s trick is that the springs are suspended in oil to damp the pinging when hit by a transient, perhaps they are doing something similar.

To me there are two kind or springs, hi fi and lo hi. BX20s and Master Rooms are hi fi "use me on anything" boxes.

Thanks man. I didn't know that about the akg's.

Thanks for the knowledge.

john

[NEWTON IN ORBIT]

Originally Posted by Jim Williams

I used to build spring reverbs back in the early 1980's. I used Accutronic type 9 3 spring tanks. I used 2 per channel. They custom made the tanks with a reversed polarity magnet on the return coils. I wired them in series, out of phase to create a hum cacelling pickup design that was very quiet.

The drive coils were also wired out of phase. That lessend the fundamental and stopped much of the sprong.

To control decay time, I designed a one knob compress/expand circuit. Set in the middle was normal. To the left was expansion, that shortend the reverb time. To the right was compression, that would increase decay time. It worked pretty damn good, enough to get kudos from Doug Sax who used to master the laquers for me.

The reversed pol trick sounds very cool.

The other things I try to do on the send and returns of the console. However having it all in one unit like that, and tailored to the response / decay of the spring, would be badass.

Thanks,
john

edited:
On the LA2A thing...no I haven't. I use a de-esser or other compressor/ exp / gate (Valley or DBX) a lot, on both ends though, and usually just console eq.

[GearOnTheGo]

Great thread!


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[sunny pedaal]

recently bought a fairchild reverbetron 658A
am very satisfied with it.
nice warm reverb with good 3d like capacity.
afcourse some filtering of sidesounds on the mixer, but thereafter the nicest reverb i've on the moment ( only have had some akg smaller type stereo and a d&r and a selfbuild hammond spring. not to mention the mpx1, drv2000 m-one and so forth )
would really recommend it , if you'd get the chance to buy one .

[Joram]

For a cheap spring reverb, try to find the Great British Spring Reverb. The bazooka of springs revs :-)

[TC5]

I use the Van Amps Sole Mate spring reverb. Very good.

VanAmps | the best handmade analog spring reverbs.

[Portcity]

I'm loving my knas reverb, a little over the top but when it's right it's perfect.

[ray_subsonic]

Originally Posted by NEWTON IN ORBIT

I have a Soundworkshop 242a, that I like a lot .. I did the Walter Sear trick, and crimped the springs at random intervals with needle nose, so that it is less y .. I also put some very light lead fishing sinkers on the spring, and this helped further.

John, you've inspired me to try this. I'll be opening up mine soon to have a look.

A Spring Pig here .. Have the above SoundWorkshop 242, an Orban, and the spring in my Roland 555. And yes .. Make that a +5 for the AKG BX20 .. King of Springs .. Still wishing I could find one ..

[sameal]

i got a jvc home unit I'm working on actually. if i can get the hum out of it it's sounding like it might be a contender. all tube, looking to be point to point wiring, no i.c's or pcb to be found.

alas it's on the bench in a long line of things on the bench however. the day will come.

i added a 3 prong power plug and the hum went up significantly. i think i picked a bad grounding point. or maybe it shouldn't be grounded at all.

[fremantlerecords]

If you have a nice guitar amp with a spring reverb try using a reamper on an aux send and use it as a chamber PA.