Will my mixes improve if I buy a set of Genelecs 1037b when I own the 8050's?
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23rd May 2010
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Will my mixes improve if I buy a set of Genelecs 1037b when I own the 8050's?

Will I hear details better?? or not worth the money?
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23rd May 2010
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Try it and you'll know.
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not possible to try them unfortunately...what I'd like to know is if the bass and mids response is in fact better than the 8050's...
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16th June 2010
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1038 my friend

Buy 1038 in my opinion, 15inch woofer... which is what you need to get bass plus its 400watts output for the bass side instead of 180watt for the 1037 which are in 12inch ..... if you want a change when tracking and mixing i recommand you 1038 instead of 1037.. its a better buy i think!.. greets
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The answer is...it depends.
Sorry but it's true.
Here are some facts and caveats. The 1037 is a three way system. A dedicated midrange driver helps eliminate any nonlinearity as the bass driver extends up to meet the tweeter. This is good. It also divides the full range frequency more than a two way system does and , by using another driver, increases the possibility of phase and time alignment issues. This is bad. Genelec does a great job with their systems, so the phase and time alignment thing is minimal. The extra crossover is a taste issue.
One MAJOR point - the 1037 is a midfield or smaller soffit mount type of speaker. If you don't have the space to get far enough away from the speakers, don't use the big boxes.
The main questions you need to ask are these - what issues are you finding with your current mixes? Will greater output and a little more bass extension fix them? Is your room capable of dealing with the SPL without becoming acoustic mush?
YMMV.
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17th June 2010
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Do you have a sub? As soon as I got my 2.1 system fine tuned, I was able to fix so many previous mixes. Best studio purchase EVER.

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Your mixes will improve when you learn how to listen better to your mixes and make the right changes.
Your mixes will improve more if you have good acoustic treatment in your studio.
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I think the real-world performance difference between monitors of the same type is overstated. If you can play back reference material and it sounds excellent, then there is no deficiency in your monitoring that is holding you back.
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Originally Posted by burp182 View Post
The answer is...it depends.
Sorry but it's true.
Here are some facts and caveats. The 1037 is a three way system. A dedicated midrange driver helps eliminate any nonlinearity as the bass driver extends up to meet the tweeter.
Nonlinearities can never be eliminated but it's possible to reduce intermodulation and harmonic distortion by going from 2-way to 3-way. OTOH there are good drivers and designs for 2-way systems that trumps many decent 3-way systems.


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It also divides the full range frequency more than a two way system does and , by using another driver, increases the possibility of phase and time alignment issues.
More drivers typically means more phase distortion and worse performance in the time domain (=worse impulse/transient/step-response).

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Genelec does a great job with their systems, so the phase and time alignment thing is minimal.
Using high order crossovers and no info on tricks to reduce phase distortion I assume standard approach with 4th order LR filter which do not have the minimum possible phase shift.


/Peter
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17th June 2010
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You d better work on your room accoustic if it s not already done.

I dont think it worth the change.
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23rd January 2011
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owning a genelec 1038 requires to own a sub also ? are there any monitor speakers that do not require a sub ?


thanks
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